Chat with a Venezuelan

Crazy Ivan said:
I mean, to be perfectly honest, your posts deserve nothing more than LOLs. I'm being VERY generous by engaging you at all. Everyone else here understands that but you.
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I bet you the 50% living below the poverty line agree with me, and those who are born again, and that's what mostly maters to me.
 
wiseones2cents said:
I bet you the 50% living below the poverty line agree with me, and those who are born again, and that's what mostly maters to me.
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I think if you polled born-again Christians (there really is no other kind, by definition) if they agreed with your views on socialism, you'd be very, very disappointed in the result.
 
Crazy Ivan said:
I mean, my father in law got sick really bad with Covid and our horrible, terrible medical system saved his life.
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LOL! And people survived from covid in 3rd world countries. Means nothing! We also know thousands that died to to those ventilators that suffocated the people.


Crazy Ivan said:
YOUR socialism is made up fantasy that has no actual relevance to the real world whenever it's tried. That you don't understand this tells me all I need to know about how authoritative and trustworthy your views are on this.
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Yet you are unable to offer any real counter argument.
Crazy Ivan said:
Can I ask you how old you are, and what your education level is? (since, you know, you asked me)
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It's irrelevant, all I know is that I am wiser and more intelligent than you. :)
 
wiseones2cents said:
LOL! And people survived from covid in 3rd world countries. Means nothing! We also know thousands that died to to those ventilators that suffocated the people.
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You said the US system is great until you get sick. I gave you a real-world example of someone who got sick and our terrible, awful system made him better.

wiseones2cents said:
Yet you are unable to offer any real counter argument.
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Dude, the counter argument is called: THE REAL WORLD.

wiseones2cents said:
It's irrelevant, all I know is that I am wiser and more intelligent than you. :)
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Hahahahaha well, one thing is for sure. You definitely are funnier.
 
Crazy Ivan said:
To the ruling class, dummy.
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You see the ruling class living like royalty?LOL Why is the country still in debt? So your saying it's NOT socialism? The problem is they have a greedy ruling class? What does that have to do with socialism which is basically rule by the people? lol

I didn't know the Venezuelan ruling class was on the Forbes list of richest people???? :ROFLMAO:
 
wiseones2cents said:
You see the ruling class living like royalty?LOL Why is the country still in debt? So your saying it's NOT socialism? The problem is they have a greedy ruling class? What does that have to do with socialism which is basically rule by the people? lol

I didn't know the Venezuelan ruling class was on the Forbes list of richest people???? :ROFLMAO:
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The ruling class in every country always is wealthy.
 
Crazy Ivan said:
I think if you polled born-again Christians (there really is no other kind, by definition) if they agreed with your views on socialism, you'd be very, very disappointed in the result.
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There are many "Christians" most are goats(and/or deceived). Anyone that doesn't believe in my socialism is not a true Christian. :)

People that claim capitalism and greed is good(Christians on here) are pretenders or decieved. :)
 
Crazy Ivan said:
The ruling class in every country always is wealthy.
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You are avoiding the question.lol Who are the ruling class? Venezuela was a colony of the west. When their economy collapsed their was wide spread poverty. Thats when the Venezuelan people started nationalizing western assets in order to feed the poor masses. And the western elites slapped sanctions on Venezuela!

So who are is the ruling class of Venezuela and how much is he worth?

Nicolás Maduro? He is worth 2 million. Where are the trillions? Is the money just sitting in an off shore account? Why aren't they living it up? They could be living like the Saudi Arabian Royals!!

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wiseones2cents said:
You are avoiding the question.lol Who are the ruling class? Venezuela was a colony of the west. When their economy collapsed their was wide spread poverty. Thats when the Venezuelan people started nationalizing western assets in order to feed the poor masses. And the western elites slapped sanctions on Venezuela!

So who are is the ruling class of Venezuela and how much is he worth?

Nicolás Maduro? He is worth 2 million. Where are the trillions? Is the money just sitting in an off shore account? Why aren't they living it up? They could be living like the Saudi Arabian Royals!!

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Give up? Venezuela still owes $160 billion
1. Venezuela – 304.125% (Source: IMF) The data available from 2020 estimates the national debt of this South American country at $160 billion. This puts Venezuela solidly in the lead when it comes to the countries with the highest debt.

Therefore all the money they make is going to their CAPITALIST creditors! And the fact that their currency is so low, Venezuelan gas is super cheap. They dont make the money Saudi Arabia makes. Thats all due to capitalism.
 
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wiseones2cents said:
You are avoiding the question.lol Who are the ruling class? Venezuela was a colony of the west. When their economy collapsed their was wide spread poverty. Thats when the Venezuelan people started nationalizing western assets in order to feed the poor masses. And the western elites slapped sanctions on Venezuela!

So who are is the ruling class of Venezuela and how much is he worth?

Nicolás Maduro? He is worth 2 million. Where are the trillions? Is the money just sitting in an off shore account? Why aren't they living it up? They could be living like the Saudi Arabian Royals!!

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The ruling class in Venezuela is Chavez and his cronies in charge.
 
Crazy Ivan said:
The ruling class in Venezuela is Chavez and his cronies in charge.
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Ummm according to the US media, Chavez overthrew the ruling class that was western friendly. Yes that THEN made Chavez the ruling class.(whose family was already into politics) Chavez is worth about 1-2 Billion(Peanuts considering their wealth), His daughter inherited the money and doubled his fortune. That still doesn't account for where all the billions are going.

Chavez created ALOT of social programs to help the people affected by the collapse of their currency due to the fact they couldnt pay their capitalist debt. That's why Chavez was loved by the people.

Again. The bulk of the money goes to the capitalist creditors.

Look at it like this. You have a job. Making $50 an hour, your in debt but it's manageable. Then you lose your job and the only job you can find is $7 an hour. You are no longer able to afford your debt. The debt keeps getting higher and higher. The bank wants to take your house but you refuse to move. They surround your house with cops and try to force you to give up your assets. Thats sort of like Venezuela.
 
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