Chew Toy Apologetic*

BMS

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She had unprotected sex.

You are utterly wrong - I acknowledge the connection.

What I do not acknowledge is that pregnancy must necessarily result in carriage to term.

As long as it hasn't been born, yes - that does solve the problem.

See? You do understand.

The key word being was.
That is no longer the problem; the problem now is the unwanted pregnancy.
There is your problem then, she had unprotected sex and she has conceived.
 

DaGeo

Active member
Nope.
Hence why I said "I would say that trying to figure out what is a "baby" is a little more metaphysical than just purely scientific..." ;)
Thanks for the thoughtful reply but I disagree with the metaphysical assumption. The definition of a baby is definite and concrete
 

radvermin

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Thanks for the thoughtful reply but I disagree with the metaphysical assumption. The definition of a baby is definite and concrete
The way I'm using metaphysical is simply to say something beyond pure science needs to be used.
God, for example, would fall into the metaphysical category in that regard.

Just so you know more about me, I'm a VanTil/Bahnsen kind of guy, so we're not going to be far off from each other.
However, I do like to ask questions to try to understand.

John 17:17 "Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth."
 

Temujin

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Thanks for the thoughtful reply but I disagree with the metaphysical assumption. The definition of a baby is definite and concrete
Please state clearly your definite and concrete definition of a baby. It would be hugely refreshing, as well as unusual, to have something concrete and definite from you.
 

BMS

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Please state clearly your definite and concrete definition of a baby. It would be hugely refreshing, as well as unusual, to have something concrete and definite from you.
Please state your definition of 'concrete'. I believe I asked you this before. Also please first give your definition of woman.
 

DaGeo

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Please state clearly your definite and concrete definition of a baby. It would be hugely refreshing, as well as unusual, to have something concrete and definite from you.
The world is not only replete with so many common evidences that all warm blooded vertebrates begin life at conception but also science has also proven that life begins at conception beyond doubt.

So sorry you missed all that‼️

Thats ALOT to miss out on‼️‼️

BTW Are your living quarters kinda like sealed off and enclosed on all 4 sides without windows⁉️⁉️⁉️🤣😂😇

I KNEW IT‼️‼️‼️😂🤣👍

Since you have the internet, why don’t ask someone to help you outa that abortion chamber box you put yourself in.

But be carful, the light on the outside of your box is kinda bright so take the necessary caution.

wishing you well my friend with your new discoveries that await you on the vast outside frontier‼️‼️😂😂🤣😇

But remember this: keep your eyes open😂😂🤣🤣👍
 
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Temujin

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The world is not only replete with so many common evidences that all warm blooded vertebrates begin life at conception but also science has also proven that life begins at conception beyond doubt.

So sorry you missed all that‼️

Thats ALOT to miss out on‼️‼️

BTW Are your living quarters kinda like sealed off and enclosed on all 4 sides without windows⁉️⁉️⁉️🤣😂😇

I KNEW IT‼️‼️‼️😂🤣👍

Since you have the internet, why don’t ask someone to help you outa that abortion chamber box you put yourself in.

But be carful, the light on the outside of your box is kinda bright so take the necessary caution.

wishing you well my friend with your new discoveries that await you on the vast outside frontier‼️‼️😂😂🤣😇

But remember this: keep your eyes open😂😂🤣🤣👍
As expected, a total inability to live up to the offer of a concrete and definite definition of "baby". Just the normal sidestep and scamper off into the distance.
 

DaGeo

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As expected, a total inability to live up to the offer of a concrete and definite definition of "baby". Just the normal sidestep and scamper off into the distance.
As expected, deeply entrenched and unwilling to step outside of your box and into the real world.

How about we talk on the outside of your box. I could show you a lot of good stuff if only you would stop fearing the light of truth and take your blinders off
 

Temujin

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As expected, deeply entrenched and unwilling to step outside of your box and into the real world.

How about we talk on the outside of your box. I could show you a lot of good stuff if only you would stop fearing the light of truth and take your blinders off
Sorry but you have already demonstrated that you are all bang and no bullets. Until you start acting honestly here, I see no reason to believe that you have anything honest to say anywhere.
 

DaGeo

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The way I'm using metaphysical is simply to say something beyond pure science needs to be used.
God, for example, would fall into the metaphysical category in that regard.

Just so you know more about me, I'm a VanTil/Bahnsen kind of guy, so we're not going to be far off from each other.
However, I do like to ask questions to try to understand.

John 17:17 "Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth."
Thank you.
If you have time, would you expand, just a little more, on the way you’re applying the term metaphysical. Thanks. I like VanTil and Bahnsen’s approach to apologetics
 

DaGeo

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Sorry but you have already demonstrated that you are all bang and no bullets. Until you start acting honestly here, I see no reason to believe that you have anything honest to say anywhere.
Denial is a powerful psychological tool. You use it well but for some reason you still fear the truth.

Guess truth is kinda hard to deny even for you, but you just keep trying‼️‼️😂😂🤣😇
 

Temujin

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Denial is a powerful psychological tool. You use it well but for some reason you still fear the truth.

Guess truth is kinda hard to deny even for you, but you just keep trying‼️‼️😂😂🤣😇
Thanks, but I have the truth. If I feel the need for more truth, the last place I would look for it is here. If forced to look for it here, almost the last person I would ask for it is you. Sorry, but if you cannot answer a simple question even when you boasted of having it, then I've lost the miniscule amount of interest I ever had in what you have to say.
 

BMS

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As expected, a total inability to live up to the offer of a concrete and definite definition of "baby". Just the normal sidestep and scamper off into the distance.
So how do you expect to discuss what a baby is?
 

BMS

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Thanks, but I have the truth. If I feel the need for more truth, the last place I would look for it is here. If forced to look for it here, almost the last person I would ask for it is you. Sorry, but if you cannot answer a simple question even when you boasted of having it, then I've lost the miniscule amount of interest I ever had in what you have to say.
What are you trying to say exactly?
The medical profession more often than not refer to the unborn human being in the womb as a baby. The biological stages are more precisely embryo and foetus. You know that, we know that, but we and the medical profession know what the human being is when we call it a baby, you on the other hand are confused.
You are also devoid of evidence and reasoning. When presented with reasoning you ridicule it and then imagine things that dont exist.
You need to get a grip of reality
 

Temujin

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What are you trying to say exactly?
Exactly what I have said.
The medical profession more often than not refer to the unborn human being in the womb as a baby. The biological stages are more precisely embryo and foetus. You know that, we know that, but we and the medical profession know what the human being is when we call it a baby, you on the other hand are confused.
All completely irrelevant to the conversation I am having with someone else. You are butting in, again. I predict that you will very shortly make a further irrelevant comment about gender identity.
You are also devoid of evidence and reasoning. When presented with reasoning you ridicule it and then imagine things that dont exist.
You need to get a grip of reality
You are practising your insults in front of a mirror.
 

BMS

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Exactly what I have said.

All completely irrelevant to the conversation I am having with someone else. You are butting in, again. I predict that you will very shortly make a further irrelevant comment about gender identity.

You are practising your insults in front of a mirror.
All completely irrelevant opinion in the face of evidenced based reality
 

DaGeo

Active member
Thanks, but I have the truth. If I feel the need for more truth, the last place I would look for it is here. If forced to look for it here, almost the last person I would ask for it is you. Sorry, but if you cannot answer a simple question even when you boasted of having it, then I've lost the miniscule amount of interest I ever had in what you have to say.
All those suffering from psychological denial think they have the truth

Trouble is, these people never know for sure what truth is because what they believe today changes tomorrow. Their false belief that they accept as truth isn’t truth because truth is not in a state of constant flux.

Sadly the Temujin doesn’t realize that truth remains truth forever and doesn’t change. What is true today with be true tomorrow not so with the Temujin’s evolution

Thanks Temujin, I always look forward to your posts
 

Temujin

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All those suffering from psychological denial think they have the truth
You would know.
Trouble is, these people never know for sure what truth is because what they believe today changes tomorrow. Their false belief that they accept as truth isn’t truth because truth is not in a state of constant flux.
Physician, heal thyself.
Sadly the Temujin doesn’t realize that truth remains truth forever and doesn’t change. What is true today with be true tomorrow not so with the Temujin’s evolution
Truth doesn't change. Our understanding of what is true does change. Relying on the understanding of the truth held by goat herders of the Bronze Age, while denying any change in understanding, is the ultimate in psychological denial.
Thanks Temujin, I always look forward to your posts
You are welcome. It amuses me to post here and unlike some, I feel that I can amuse myself at your expense without causing myself psychological damage. That is a very back-handed compliment.
 

BMS

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All those suffering from psychological denial think they have the truth

Trouble is, these people never know for sure what truth is because what they believe today changes tomorrow. Their false belief that they accept as truth isn’t truth because truth is not in a state of constant flux.

Sadly the Temujin doesn’t realize that truth remains truth forever and doesn’t change. What is true today with be true tomorrow not so with the Temujin’s evolution

Thanks Temujin, I always look forward to your posts
As I am frequently showing, the truth that Temujin upholds changes
 

BMS

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You would know.
Yes I think he does

Physician, heal thyself.
IS from the Bible, and you like many of the people those words were said to, didnt believe. What is your point therefore?

Truth doesn't change. Our understanding of what is true does change. Relying on the understanding of the truth held by goat herders of the Bronze Age, while denying any change in understanding, is the ultimate in psychological denial.
Hmmn they got biological sex more right than you.
 
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