Reformedguy
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Set it up like you claimed you were going to. Or do you prefer wearing the cheerleading skirt??Anytime lol the balls in your court big guy
5 foot 2 is tall compared to some
Speaking of empty claims
Set it up like you claimed you were going to. Or do you prefer wearing the cheerleading skirt??Anytime lol the balls in your court big guy
5 foot 2 is tall compared to some
Does it matter to a determinist that God determined as a believer that I reject Calvinism as false . So much for that doctrine lol.
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It is not.Arminianism is perfectly aligned with Jesus' exposition of the parable.
Exactly. The wheat falls away and becomes taresIt is not.
You are only bluffing yourself.
When Jesus gives His exposition He nowhere teaches what you do.
If you had a leg to stand on you would have tried to show me where Jesus says that those who hear and understand ever fall away.
Try your very best to show that those who produce a harvest, those who hear and understand EVER fall away.
I will be waiting with bated breath.
I see that you continue to deny the power of the Holy Spirit's ministry to reach unbelievers. Your poor view of God's sovereignty over his creation has been noted.It is not.
You are only bluffing yourself.
When Jesus gives His exposition He nowhere teaches what you do.
If you had a leg to stand on you would have tried to show me where Jesus says that those who hear and understand ever fall away.
Try your very best to show that those who produce a harvest, those who hear and understand EVER fall away.
I will be waiting with bated breath.
when a lamb is born to a ewe, the shepherd has not chosen that lamb to belong to himSo you concede shepherds choose their sheep?
the problem with that analogy is that it does not fit anything Jesus teaches in His sheep analogies.The sheep believe the Father's witnesses; the sheep are given to the Son. Scripture makes no mention of sheep choosing their shepherd.
None the less sheep do not choose there shepherds. Shepherds choose there sheep.when a lamb is born to a ewe, the shepherd has not chosen that lamb to belong to him
That is not always true. The shepherd sometimes did not own the sheep. They were not his. Sometimes the shpherd as a hired hand. My point is not to go beyond what jesus taught. In His sheep analogies he does not deal with who choose who. And I think it is thin ice to try to formulate doctrine thereNone the less sheep do not choose there shepherds. Shepherds choose there sheep.
The Bible speaks about this, it calls Pastors "Under-Shepherds". But this does not mean that the Under Shepherds are not shepherding God's Sheep...That is not always true. The shepherd sometimes did not own the sheep. They were not his. Sometimes the shpherd as a hired hand. My point is not to go beyond what jesus taught. In His sheep analogies he does not deal with who choose who. And I think it is thin ice to try to formulate doctrine there
That is not always true. The shepherd sometimes did not own the sheep. They were not his. Sometimes the shpherd as a hired hand. My point is not to go beyond what jesus taught. In His sheep analogies he does not deal with who choose who. And I think it is thin ice to try to formulate doctrine there
where does the word "under-shepherd" come from that is new to me?The Bible speaks about this, it calls Pastors "Under-Shepherds". But this does not mean that the Under Shepherds are not shepherding God's Sheep...
I will be able to tell if you are you-know-who by what you will say to this. If you say "You are right sir", I may be wrong about who Civic said you are...
of course sheep don't shepherd shop. That is not anything i suggested. Going beyond scripture to form doctrine was my concernI think you're the one going beyond what Jesus taught.
The Biblical model is that the Master of the house (eg. Jesse) owns the sheep, and the shepherd (eg. David) cares for them.
The Father gave the sheep to the Son.
The sheep don't go "shepherd shopping".
It's a Doctrinal Term from 1st Peter 5. Kind of like the word Trinity, it's a true term...where does the word "under-shepherd" come from that is new to me?
But again my only point in this discussion is to not go beyond scripture when forming doctrine
I read 1 peter 5, I do not see the concept of under-shepherd, but I m interested, Which verse are you referring to?It's a Doctrinal Term from 1st Peter 5. Kind of like the word Trinity, it's a true term...
But come on *eth, remember that I don't like to fool around with a whole lot of unneccesary never ending questions for the purpose of avoiding the immediate subject at hand. I'm glad you're back, but others may not be so happy about it and report you. They remember how you are. If you are really not you-know-who, then you could be wrongly suspended because they think you snuck in after being banned. So when I say something and it really makes a lot of common sense, just say 'I think you are right' or something like that...
Okay, I'm glad you're back; but just know it's back to the way it used to be with you and I. I'll just talk to you from time to time, and answer some of your Posts for the sake of the Lurkers. You'll still have plenty of people to talk to...I read 1 peter 5, I do not see the concept of under-shepherd, but I m interested, Which verse are you referring to?
Sheep do not walk around looking for a shepherd.That is not always true. The shepherd sometimes did not own the sheep. They were not his. Sometimes the shpherd as a hired hand. My point is not to go beyond what jesus taught. In His sheep analogies he does not deal with who choose who. And I think it is thin ice to try to formulate doctrine there
Okay, I'm glad you're back; but just know it's back to the way it used to be with you and I. I'll just talk to you from time to time, and answer some of your Posts for the sake of the Lurkers. You'll still have plenty of people to talk to...
Have fun...
No? They don’t wander the fields and hills looking for a shepherd?Sheep do not walk around looking for a shepherd.
I am not following all this stuff from you, we were talking about who chose whom, and my point is that the parable does not talk about that concept, all this other stuff is off topic and a little confusingOkay, I'm glad you're back; but just know it's back to the way it used to be with you and I. I'll just talk to you from time to time, and answer some of your Posts for the sake of the Lurkers. You'll still have plenty of people to talk to...
Have fun...