Christian inconsistancy about the Law

rossh

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Of course. The central point of the Torah is obedience. There are, for Jews, curses if we choose not to obey, and blessings if we DO obey. And of course, as I have quoted many times, it is easy to obey, we CAN do so.
yes, but yet again, as with Adam, he proved that man can disobey God. Therein Adam proved the blemish of all mankind after Adam.. we all are inherently sinful by nature... and God can not even " look " upon evil. There is no evil in Heaven, same as there in no pain, nor sickness, nor anger, loss nor sin..
 

rossh

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According to Jesus, whom YOU follow, not a brushstroke will pass away from the Law until heaven and earth pass away. Last time I looked out my front door, heaven and earth were still around.
Obviously!! What is the point of that biblical statement, it is Gods Word not your nor mine ? By His flesh and blood Son Yeshua that all our sins re already forgiven if we confess the Messiah.. he alone IS the lamb without blemish who is offered up for all who believe.
 

Open Heart

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What then is/was the most Important Item for Israel back in the days of greatness ??
The first King was Saul, then David, then Solomon, then Jeroboam, etc: did tall of them " fall from God grace " ?

The birth and death resurrection of Gods flesh and blood Son Yeshua was and is the only way to Salvation destined by God before the beginning..
The standard was never perfection. David sinned a BIG sin, and yet he is called "a man after God's own heart."
 

Open Heart

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yes, but yet again, as with Adam, he proved that man can disobey God. Therein Adam proved the blemish of all mankind after Adam.. we all are inherently sinful by nature... and God can not even " look " upon evil. There is no evil in Heaven, same as there in no pain, nor sickness, nor anger, loss nor sin..
You'll get no argument from me that we have an inclination to evil. But we also have an inclination to good -- we are made in the image of God.

Again, the standard is NOT perfection.
Proverbs 24:16,
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

The standard here, clearly is that the good person, the rightous man, whatever you want to call him, is the person who continues to repent and return to God. But obviously it is acknowledge that the rightous man sins.
 

Open Heart

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Obviously!! What is the point of that biblical statement, it is Gods Word not your nor mine ? By His flesh and blood Son Yeshua that all our sins re already forgiven if we confess the Messiah.. he alone IS the lamb without blemish who is offered up for all who believe.
Amazing to me that you, like others in this forum, can actually read what I write, and then compose a reply that has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with what I said. Talk about blinders.
 

rossh

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You'll get no argument from me that we have an inclination to evil. But we also have an inclination to good -- we are made in the image of God.

Again, the standard is NOT perfection.
Proverbs 24:16,
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

The standard here, clearly is that the good person, the rightous man, whatever you want to call him, is the person who continues to repent and return to God. But obviously it is acknowledge that the rightous man sins.
Now,, quote the passage where we are told that, NON are righteous ???????????????? ( Romans 3:10 ) ????
How does a sinner become righteous at the same time, seriously ? Scriptures please ? We are all BORN with the SIN of Adam in us..
 

Open Heart

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Now,, quote the passage where we are told that, NON are righteous ???????????????? ( Romans 3:10 ) ????
How does a sinner become righteous at the same time, seriously ? Scriptures please ? We are all BORN with the SIN of Adam in us..
What the hey? Don't you get it that Jews don't consider the New Testament to be the word of God? You might have just as well quoted the Quran or the Vedas or the Book of Mormon. In that past, it has taken a while for Christians in this forum to get the message, so forgive me if I'm quite frank about this, because I just don't want to waste your time -- DON'T BOTHER quoting the New Testaement to me. It doesn't work. In fact, there are a couple people who post in here that I routinely just don't read their posts, because all they do is quote the New Testament. I don't care about the NT, so the only thing you accomplish is irritating me so that I stop reading your posts.
 

Open Heart

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Obviously!! What is the point of that biblical statement, it is Gods Word not your nor mine ? By His flesh and blood Son Yeshua that all our sins re already forgiven if we confess the Messiah.. he alone IS the lamb without blemish who is offered up for all who believe.
Oh gosh, are hyou going to only be another annoying person who does nothing but preach in here? Because I've already wasted most of my life being a Christian, and am not interested in sermons, just as I am not interested in read stuff from the NT. So basically, if you want to continue to dialogue iwth me, find a topic that we can banter back and forth on that is supported by the Tanakh (OT). Otherwise, I'll just add you to the list of people who I ignore.
 
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