Christian safe-haven in British Columbia

Synergy

Active member
We are specifically looking for Christians to join us in our "safe-haven to be" in BC.
I.E. We are specifically looking for Christians who God will connect us with.

What believers read in these posts might lead them to do likewise, if God leads.
E.G. We encourage you to form a safe-haven there in S.A.

The Lord has told us plenty about our (His) safe-haven.
He will provide someone to help us decide which property to purchase.
Our unity is of #1 paramount importance.
It will include a "motley crew" like David had, for various purposes, such as protecting all of us.
It will have a swimming pool and hot-tub for everyone to enjoy.
We will need 3 generators (min.), typewriter, printing press, horses, old farm equipment, etc.
W/O the mark of the beast, we plan on buying some things with gold and silver coins.

News Flash:
The Lord loves His people who are righteous, obedient, etc.
and receives great pleasure from such true believers,
and He especially enjoys fellow-shipping with such people!
For this is why He created the human race (He says).

Please note:
We only believe what is in His word, and what the Lord tells us personally!
We do not trust in any man, church, etc. We only trust in Him and in His word.
Make sure you don't purchase any Cool Aid because you might freak out a person or two. 😊😊
 

SteveB

Well-known member
Heads Up
I have posted the OP on several Christian forums,
and not even one person has said:
they have prayed to the Lord about this, and have been told
to go to a safe-haven ... or not to go to one!
So, it might be safe to say that most responses to the OP
have been in the flesh (i.e. not in the Spirit).
And had my posts not been providing a biblical basis for my points, I'd agree with you.
In the 4th through the 13th centuries, people tried the monastic lifestyles. From my reading over the years, there are some that still do.....

I've yet to see a single monastery offer an actual biblical basis for it.


And don't mistake me..... I wanted to escape human civilization in 1973, when I was a pre-teen. That was when it started.
and it had nothing to do with being free from sin.

I have talked with God about it, several times over the years.
Never once has be said that being isolated from the people whom he sent his son Jesus to save from their sin would be a good idea.
 

SteveB

Well-known member
Make sure you don't purchase any Cool Aid because you might freak out a person or two. 😊😊
You know.... while meant to be funny, you do remind me of people who did exactly this.
Jim Jones and the People's Temple.
David Koresh.
It didn't end so well for them.
There's the group out of San Diego. A UFO group...
 

ZacharyB

New Member
You boys are swimmin' around in deep, deep do-do.
The Lord has NOT answered you re: His plans for us!
Perhaps, Satan has ... or has it been your flesh?
Have a nice swim.

Methunks, I shall switch to Prepper Forums.
And I hear a loud, "Hurray!" arising from the do-do.
 
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SteveB

Well-known member
You boys are swimmin' around in deep, deep do-do.
The Lord has NOT answered you re: His plans for us!
Perhaps, Satan has ... or has it been your flesh?
Have a nice swim.

You were so close to having a real conversation on this topic. Now...... you've just demonstrated that you're not a follower of Jesus, and Jesus didn't send you to draw out people to come follow you.

Wow..... definitely sounding like Jim Jones on this one.

Methunks, I shall switch to Prepper Forums.
And I hear a loud, "Hurray!" arising from the do-do.
Yeah. I'd agree.
You should. Anyone with a lick of sense will see right through your now clear BS.
 

ZacharyB

New Member
I have spent MANY years on so-called Christian forums,
and I have found, for example, that Satan has one or more
of his followers sitting at the entrance to them.
Many are babes in Christ.
Many think they know everything, but do not.
Many are deceived by their churches and/or by Satan.
And etc.

If any of you has received the baptism with the Holy Spirit
(with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues),
please reveal yourself. I thank you in advance.
 

SteveB

Well-known member
I have spent MANY years on so-called Christian forums,
and I have found, for example, that Satan has one or more
of his followers sitting at the entrance to them.
Many are babes in Christ.
Many think they know everything, but do not.
Many are deceived by their churches and/or by Satan.
And etc.

If any of you has received the baptism with the Holy Spirit
(with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues),
please reveal yourself. I thank you in advance.
Been speaking in tongues from not long after the beginning. 43 years ago.

Tongues however is a gift of the Spirit.
the real issue is that of Fruit of the Spirit.

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

Peter picks up this idea in his second letter.

5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

It's rather curious that he then notes----
9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Hiding out in a wilderness, forested stronghold anywhere won't keep sin at bay. It actually allows it to fester, and grow, like leaven, it grows until it fills the whole thing.

Peter emphasizes the importance of focusing on What God has accomplished in Jesus.

10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

So important was it that he promised to remind us, so we'd always have it on hand, and available to us.

12 For this reason I will not be negligent to remind you always of these things, though you know and are established in the present truth. 13 Yes, I think it is right, as long as I am in this tent, to stir you up by reminding you,

Hiding out from civilization won't make you safe from sin. It will act as a place where poison can fester.
Why? Because in those places where we think we're safe, we let down our guard, and forget who we are, whose we are, and why we're here.

Paul warns us of this in 1 Cor. 10

11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.​
12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
14 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge for yourselves what I say.​
 

ZacharyB

New Member
Hiding out in a wilderness, forested stronghold anywhere won't keep sin at bay. It actually allows it to fester, and grow, like leaven, it grows until it fills the whole thing.

Hiding out from civilization won't make you safe from sin. It will act as a place where poison can fester.
Why? Because in those places where we think we're safe, we let down our guard, and forget who we are, whose we are, and why we're here.
Seems like you're focusing on sin, while the Lord continues to instruct us to focus on His safe-haven.
I threw in the habitual sinning (w/o repentance) for a reason ...
it is an incredibly important and critical warning for everyone to be aware of,
especially because probably no one's church is warning about it.
Tried praying to Him yet ... about this safe-haven He has planned for us?
Or, do you prefer following the flesh instead of following the Spirit?
 
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ZacharyB

New Member
I threw in the habitual sinning (w/o repentance) for a reason ...
it is an incredibly important and critical warning for everyone to be aware of,
especially because probably no one's church is warning about it.

Romans 6:16 used to be my Signature on Christian forums.
Some criticized me because they insisted this verse was for non-Christians!

Heads-up
Christianity is all about being sanctified unto holiness (6:19, and others).
There is Positional Sanctification where the born-again believer
is set apart to be worked on by the precious Holy Spirit.
Then there is the Process of Sanctification, which leads to holiness.
 
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ZacharyB

New Member
The Lord has told us that we will be pulling a small RV behind our AWD as we
go in and out of the safe-haven to minister to non-believers and believers also.
I'm actually thinking now that a major reason for the safe-haven
might just be as a protected home-base for our evangelizing!!!
 

SteveB

Well-known member
Romans 6:16 used to be my Signature on Christian forums.
Some criticized me because they insisted this verse was for non-Christians!

Heads-up
Christianity is all about being sanctified unto holiness (6:19, and others).
There is Positional Sanctification where the born-again believer
is set apart to be worked on by the precious Holy Spirit.
Then there is the Process of Sanctification, which leads to holiness.
What do you think holiness in the life of the Jesus follower is?

How do you think that the Jesus follower obtains holiness?

How do you think that the Jesus follower is made holy?
 

ZacharyB

New Member
What do you think holiness in the life of the Jesus follower is?
How do you think that the Jesus follower obtains holiness?
How do you think that the Jesus follower is made holy?
If you wish to discuss this on an appropriate forum,
just let me know where it is located, and I'd be happy to.
Meanwhile, here I prefer to get back to focusing on what the Lord has
called us to do, and to discussing this with believers who are interested.
Like I said, I'll probably have more success on the Prepper forums.
 

SteveB

Well-known member
If you wish to discuss this on an appropriate forum,
just let me know where it is located, and I'd be happy to.
Right here is fine.


Meanwhile, here I prefer to get back to focusing on what the Lord has
called us to do, and to discussing this with believers who are interested.
And yet here you are, still talking.

It's long been a known practice to learn how people believe, to get them to explain their views.
If you actually want people to come follow you, you should explain your beliefs.

So, since you mentioned holiness, why don't you just focus on answering my questions about it.

Like I said, I'll probably have more success on the Prepper forums.
Yet here you are.
There is no prepper forum here.
 

e v e

Super Member
Methinks, you are a died-in-the-wool pre-tribber.
Jesus said believers will be going through the most terrible time in history.
He was referring to the great tribulation period of the antichrist.
BTW, the Lord can protect whomever He desires to protect any time He wishes.
For example ...
Haven't you heard that He sometimes makes people invisible ... to protect them.

believers who will be suffering trib are those who did Not listen to Him and do not understand His scripture.
 

e v e

Super Member
the only safe place is (new) eden soon

for those who suffer trib soon there will be no safe place on this earth....
 

ZacharyB

New Member
So far, I have NOT heard from anyone
who has prayed to the Lord about our promise
that He has directed us to start up a safe-haven
in the general area of a major city in North-Central BC.

No one has said that he/she has prayed and was told
"They have heard correctly from Me."
or ...
"They have NOT heard correctly from Me."

Simple.
 

Manfred

Well-known member
So far, I have NOT heard from anyone
who has prayed to the Lord about our promise
that He has directed us to start up a safe-haven
in the general area of a major city in North-Central BC.

No one has said that he/she has prayed and was told
"They have heard correctly from Me."
or ...
"They have NOT heard correctly from Me."

Simple.
I would ask if such a place was indeed described in the Bible.
Revelation is an apocalyptic book. If a safe haven was referred to, then I would ask God seriously about it, but as I see it, we will not escape what is to come.
The only way to escape it is to believe in a pre trib rapture.
If not, calamity will strike. And you cannot know which parts of the world will have fresh water and grazing left.
If you say that you have heard that BC will be safe, then how can you confirm it by scripture?
 

ZacharyB

New Member
I would ask if such a place was indeed described in the Bible.
Revelation is an apocalyptic book. If a safe haven was referred to,
then I would ask God seriously about it, but as I see it, we will not escape what is to come.
The only way to escape it is to believe in a pre trib rapture.
If not, calamity will strike. And you cannot know which parts of the world will have fresh water and grazing left.
If you say that you have heard that BC will be safe, then how can you confirm it by scripture?
Everything in our personal lives is NOT confirmed in Scripture!
You have taken an extremely important practice (to follow diligently) too far!
Our God is an extremely personal God, and He desires to fellowship with us!
Please take note of, for example, John 10:27-28 and John 17:3.
 

ZacharyB

New Member
During all of the years I was on many Christian forums,
I experienced many people who chose to reject NT verses!
Especially those verses which condemned those
in the church who were involved in habitual sin.
They preferred the so-called OSAS eternal security verses.
But, praise God, they can repent and return to Him!

So, I am not the least bit surprised to encounter people
on Christian forums today who reject the fact that
God personally speaks to His born-again people.
My goodness, He even speaks to non-believers,
especially when He is calling them to Himself
(I experienced this myself big-time in 1980.)
 
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Manfred

Well-known member
Everything in our personal lives is NOT confirmed in Scripture!
That is true.

Yet, if a safe haven were to be available to Christians during the tribulation, such would get mentioned in the word.
As it is not and as we do not know which parts of the globe will lose drinkable water, grazing etc. we would not know where to build such a place.

This is very much like the doomsday prophets making predictions of His return when no one knows.
When do you expect it?

BTW, as you do not believe in eternal security, how do you know the people that join your safe haven will not betray you as they fall away.
 
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