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Truther

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I will give $1000.00 to anyone that can find anybody in the N.T. church scriptures(Acts through Rev) that was water baptized any other way but in the name of Jesus Christ.
 
I will give $1000.00 to anyone that can find anybody in the N.T. church scriptures(Acts through Rev) that was water baptized any other way but in the name of Jesus Christ.
Acts 10:48
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

I can PM you my address, check is fine.
 
What is the name of the Lord?

Just to clarify what YOU believe...

Is it okay to baptize someone "in the name of the Word"?

Is it okay to baptize someone "in the name of the Lamb"?

Etc.

Since as YOU point out... What is the name of the Word or the Lamb?
 

Truther

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Just to clarify what YOU believe...

Is it okay to baptize someone "in the name of the Word"?

Is it okay to baptize someone "in the name of the Lamb"?


Etc.

Since as YOU point out... What is the name of the Word or the Lamb?
You must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins.

Or else, every sin you have ever committed or ever will commit will precede you at the great white throne of God.

Scary stuff.
 

all4Him

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I will give $1000.00 to anyone that can find anybody in the N.T. church scriptures(Acts through Rev) that was water baptized any other way but in the name of Jesus Christ.
Can you show what formula was spoken over a person while actually being baptized?

The only evidence available that speaks to what formula to use is found in The Didache of the Twelve Apostles. This manual was written before or around the time Luke wrote the book of Acts. This is not scripture, but it is shows the formula that the 1st Century church used for baptism.


The Didache dating around the first-century dating (50-70 CE).

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.
 

Truther

Member
Can you show what formula was spoken over a person while actually being baptized?

The only evidence available that speaks to what formula to use is found in The Didache of the Twelve Apostles. This manual was written before or around the time Luke wrote the book of Acts. This is not scripture, but it is shows the formula that the 1st Century church used for baptism.


The Didache dating around the first-century dating (50-70 CE).

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.
Scripture please.

Thanks.
 
I will give $1000.00 to anyone that can find anybody in the N.T. church scriptures(Acts through Rev) that was water baptized any other way but in the name of Jesus Christ.
Acts 8:16...
For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
Acts 19:5...
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 2:38...
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
Acts 10:48...
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

WHAT IS THE CORRECT WAY...Lord Jesus...twice...Jesus Christ once...Lord once.
Why the different wording?
 
You must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins.

Or else, every sin you have ever committed or ever will commit will precede you at the great white throne of God.

Scary stuff.
1 John 1:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

These 3 verses clearly tells us the BLOOD of Jesus Christ his SON cleanseth us from ALL SIN...if we sin after the new birth...if we confess our sins he forgives us...The BLOOD and CONFESSION of sins does the job...there's nothing left for water to remove!
 

Truther

Member
Acts 8:16...
For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
Acts 19:5...
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 2:38...
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
Acts 10:48...
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

WHAT IS THE CORRECT WAY...Lord Jesus...twice...Jesus Christ once...Lord once.
Why the different wording?
"Lord" is a title for Jesus.

These verses do not mean "Lord", but "Jesus"....


.... Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

....And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
 

Truther

Member
1 John 1:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

These 3 verses clearly tells us the BLOOD of Jesus Christ his SON cleanseth us from ALL SIN...if we sin after the new birth...if we confess our sins he forgives us...The BLOOD and CONFESSION of sins does the job...there's nothing left for water to remove!
....as it was written to those that previously obeyed Acts 2:38.

Sinners do not have permission to skip Acts and apply the Epistles to themselves.

This is mail theft.
 
....as it was written to those that previously obeyed Acts 2:38.

Sinners do not have permission to skip Acts and apply the Epistles to themselves.

This is mail theft.
Scripture does not over ride scripture...they form a puzzle of correct doctrine...Like I said in my other post.
The BLOOD of Jesus removes our sin...Confession of our sins removes unrighteousness.
The Holy Spirit reproves the world of sin not WATER.
 

all4Him

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....as it was written to those that previously obeyed Acts 2:38.

Sinners do not have permission to skip Acts and apply the Epistles to themselves.

This is mail theft.
Show anywhere where Paul's gospel of salvation requires your interpretation of Acts 2:38. Also, why not use Acts 3:19 as a means for salvation?
 

Truther

Member
You cannot prove what actual formula was spoken over a person while being baptized. You might want to withdraw your offer of $1000.00
If someone is said to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ in the Bible, was the name of Jesus Christ spoken?...

16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
 

Truther

Member
Scripture does not over ride scripture...they form a puzzle of correct doctrine...Like I said in my other post.
The BLOOD of Jesus removes our sin...Confession of our sins removes unrighteousness.
The Holy Spirit reproves the world of sin not WATER.
The N.T. was put together in this order...

Matt-John....Gospel to sinners.

Acts.....What sinners that believe must do to be saved.

Epistles(Romans-Rev).....How former sinners that became saints are to remain saved.(written for saints to edify, comfort and exhort them).


Now you know why your N.T. was put together in your Bible in this specific order.
 

Truther

Member
Show anywhere where Paul's gospel of salvation requires your interpretation of Acts 2:38. Also, why not use Acts 3:19 as a means for salvation?
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.


Paul knew it was so important that he rebaptized them in the name of Jesus Christ.

If you were one of the 12 disciples of John, you would have been rebaptized too.

Right?

You better say yes!
 
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