that is true and we call it the baptism of desire but the normative way is the sacrament of baptism as jesus taught us (john3:5).
what about romans 10?
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that is true and we call it the baptism of desire but the normative way is the sacrament of baptism as jesus taught us (john3:5).
the rcc 'baptism of desire' is not the rebirth. the rebirth is not about the rcc. It is about believing in and following Christ from one's heart. catholics toss in some lip service about Him here and there, but their hearts are far from Him. He is not the center of the catholic life, the rcc is.
what it actually does say matters, not what you (or the rcc) change it to say.
yes, I'm in it everyday. how about you? your posts show that you don't know the basics found in it. what is the Gospel ??
Didn't that come about with the crusades, to cover those who died and weren't baptised???????????? Or is that the baptism of blood.
by desire I think is if they can't get a priest to give them last rites before they die. A Christian doesn't need a priest or last rites. blood is for a catholic they claim is martyred. the rcc provides many false escapes for them.
You are right. It is confusing how many forms of baptism there are for RCs.
if you do not believe ephesians 2: 8-9, what do you belieive?
The Gospel....
- designates a written record of Christs words and deeds.
- “the good news of the kingdom” (cf. Matt., iv, 23; Mark, i, 15).
- denotes the good tidings of salvation announced to the world in connection with Jesus Christ, and, in a more general way, the whole revelation of Redemption by Christ (cf. Matt., ix, 35; xxiv, 14; etc.; Mark, i, 14; xiii, 10; xvi, 15; Acts, xx, 24; Rom., i, 1, 9, 16; x, 16; etc.)
now, let us hear from you...
so, tell us what it actually says... thanks.
Our Lord's God
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Good News/Tidings which in Hebrew is a verb expressed as bsr the noun form of which is bsr flesh.
See John 1:14.
I would most simply define the Good News as that flesh which hung dead on a cross and the name of this Good News is Jesus.
Rome's Good News seems to be Papal Bulls and Encyclicals, etc. etc.
the normative way is what jesus said in john3: 3-5.
where is your verse that born again is believing and following christ from one's heart?
our good news is jesus christ, both head and body; both groom and bride.
it is not the head/groom minus the body/bride.
Our Lord's God
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You don't get to just make it up.
it is biblical... ephesians 5: 21-27
Our Lord's God
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Ephesians 5:21-27 says nothing of the sort. Your imaginations are one thing; the actual text is another.
The Good News is ultimately the man himself, Jesus Christ, and for us to be conformed to the image of God's son.
where did you copy those references from? the ccc? you should know by now that I'm not going down one of your catholic rabbit holes. If you think any of those verses is the gospel then post the actual verse(s).
the Gospel is clear and specific. I'll take it that you don't know what it is.
maybe you should pay attention to v 26 - it speaks of washing by His word, that's something catholics don't know - or believe - or do. If you were of Him you would do all 3 of those.
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
if you do not agree, why not post your version of the gospel.