Clarifying Question

Temujin

Well-known member
You must be a loner who is unacquainted with your own kind.

I can help.

The woman and her uterus belong to the God who made her. This is the same God who decides when, where and how a person comes into this world

You might have seen someone on the internet using the term for straw man and then you decided to start using for yourself, because it sounded good. But you need to take the time necessary to understand how it applies
Everything I posted is true and relevant to the discussion.
I just now burned down your straw man
Fail. If your argument against abortion rests on the existence of God, then you must first demonstrate the existence of God. Not just any god, but your particular one. Good luck with that.

Meanwhile in the real world, there are sincere Christians who support abortion rights, who have abortions and who carry out abortions, just as there are atheists who are pro-life. Abortion is not a religious issue. You personally may have come to your own position for religious reasons, but that doesn't mean that everyone else thinks the same way. Something for which we can all be thankful.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Meanwhile in the real world, there are sincere Christians who support abortion rights, who have abortions and who carry out abortions, just as there are atheists who are pro-life. Abortion is not a religious issue. You personally may have come to your own position for religious reasons, but that doesn't mean that everyone else thinks the same way.
So the lesson here is, dont focus on what different people claim but on evidence.
 

DaGeo

Active member
Most of your posts remain rationally incoherent and this post is no exception.

In logic, you, the denier, are required to provide the burden of proof for your unfounded psychological denialGod.

But since you’re not in the habit of producing logical arguments, Edit per mod
There are only fake Christians in support of abortion. The Bible, is replete with condemnation for child killers who offer up their own posterity as a sacrifice convenience and wanton pleasure.

You obviously feel the need to force everyone to think the same as you, that’s why you refuse my position.

If I concede my position as one of many possibilities, then you would consider my position legitimate.
 
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DaGeo

Active member
Yes, you are.
No doubt you feel you’re being attacked because your ideas are so fragile
No, you're not.
If denying things helps, then go for it
You have yet to show anything irrational in anything I've said.
Like I said above, if denying things helps, then by all means, go for it
Still waiting for you to demonstrate the existence of your god.
If denying realities that are uncomfortable helps you cope, that’s your privilege.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
Most of your posts remain rationally incoherent and this post is no exception.
Ad hominem, insult, not interested.

In logic, you, the denier, are required to provide the burden of proof for your unfounded psychological denialGod.
Wrong again. You posit the existence of a god; the burden is entirely yours.

But since you’re not in the habit of producing logical arguments, this is probably a new concept for you
Ad hominem, insult, not interested.

There are only fake Christians in support of abortion. The Bible, is replete with condemnation for child killers who offer up their own posterity as a sacrifice convenience and wanton pleasure.
You do not get to determine who are 'real' and who are 'fake' Christians. Those Christians who support women's right to abort are just as much a Christian as you are.

You obviously feel the need to force everyone to think the same as you, that’s why you refuse my position.
Ad hominem, false. I refuse your position because you cannot support it.

If I concede my position as one of many possibilities, then you would consider my position legitimate.
I do not know what it means to consider a position 'legitimate'. I consider the position of Christians to be irrational as it is unsupported.

No doubt you feel you’re being attacked because your ideas are so fragile
Ad hominem, insult, not interested.

If denying things helps, then go for it
Denying things neither helps nor hinders. Denying things that are unsupported is the way rational people behave.

Like I said above, if denying things helps, then by all means, go for it
Denying things neither helps nor hinders. Denying things that are unsupported is the way rational people behave.

If denying realities that are uncomfortable helps you cope, that’s your privilege.
Denying things neither helps nor hinders. Denying things that are unsupported is the way rational people behave.
 

BMS

Well-known member
What evidence would you like me to show isn't there? Are you not able to read the post for yourself? Do you need to be led by the hand through even the basic functions of a discussion forum? You decided to interrupt a conversation and interject, for what reason if you hadn't bothered to read what was being said?
Its a debate. Bad luck. You dont get to dictate who posts what and when.
When you post please post some evidence and reasoning instead of just Temujin's opinion
 

BMS

Well-known member
Wrong. Abortion is justified because the woman owns her body and the foetus is not a person. Abortion is not compulsory.
Abortion isnt justified because a woman owns her body and so does her offspring which she helped create.
 

Temujin

Well-known member
Most of your posts remain rationally incoherent and this post is no exception.

In logic, you, the denier, are required to provide the burden of proof for your unfounded psychological denialGod.
Laughable nonsense. You assert firstly that God exists and secondly that atheists don't exist. You don't provide any evidence for either of these assertions, resting your entire argument on theses two planks; one rotten the other imaginary. It is for you to establish your own argument. Making outrageously stupid assertions then demanding that others refute them, is just a recipe for contempt. You have achieved that, at least.
But since you’re not in the habit of producing logical arguments, this is probably a new concept for you
Since you are not capable of producing any arguments at all, let alone logical ones, this remark is dismissed as the pathetic attempt at diversion that it is.
There are only fake Christians in support of abortion.
And your authority to decide that any Christian who disagrees with you is "fake" rests on what exactly? Your personal opinion and interpretation of the Bible is more authoritative, why precisely?
The Bible, is replete with condemnation for child killers who offer up their own posterity as a sacrifice convenience and wanton pleasure.
But nothing about abortion.
You obviously feel the need to force everyone to think the same as you, that’s why you refuse my position.
Hilarious. You are practising your insults in the mirror again.
If I concede my position as one of many possibilities, then you would consider my position legitimate.
What gives legitimacy to a position is some semblance of logic or evidence that it has credibility. You tell other people what they think, in effect calling them liars when they say they do not believe in your God. There is no logic or evidence that supports such a position. Which is why you have made no attempt to produce any.
 

Temujin

Well-known member
Its a debate. Bad luck. You dont get to dictate who posts what and when.
When you post please post some evidence and reasoning instead of just Temujin's opinion
Says the person who is posting pure babble, no opinion or evidence, just a lazy "What did you say? What do you mean? " because you are too idle to read the conversation that precedes your interjection.

This is an opinion board. You can post what you like, within the rules, as can I. If you want to control what I post, become a Mod.
 

Eightcrackers

Well-known member
Fail. If your argument against abortion rests on the existence of God, then you must first demonstrate the existence of God. Not just any god, but your particular one. Good luck with that.
This poster thinks that everybody already knows that their god exists, remember.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Says the person who is posting pure babble, no opinion or evidence, just a lazy "What did you say? What do you mean? " because you are too idle to read the conversation that precedes your interjection.

This is an opinion board. You can post what you like, within the rules, as can I. If you want to control what I post, become a Mod.
Thats just your opinion. I can comment on whatever post I want. As I have suggested to you before, when you post provide evidence and reasoning rather than just your opinion.
Furthernore as to your last post to DaGeo, I should look at what the Bible says rather what different people might claim about it, and that also goes for what a women actually is rather than what some might claim.
 
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