Clarifying Question

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
Told you that months ago. If you cant identify correctly the woman, then you are not going to be able to talk about abortion.
Once again butting in without even trying to determine what the subject of the discussion was.

Not to mention that your conclusion is wrong because we all talk about abortion. You're wrong. Again.
 

Temujin

Well-known member
Told you that months ago. If you cant identify correctly the woman, then you are not going to be able to talk about abortion.
Rubbish. By using the term "pregnant person" all ambiguity is removed. Abortion is about people who are pregnant and whether they should be permitted to stop being pregnant. It isn't about women, since a very large number of women cannot become pregnant. It isn't about pregnant animals or pregnant pauses, but pregnant people. There can be no possible objection to the term pregnant person except on ideological grounds by people who would rather be dishonest than inclusive.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Once again butting in without even trying to determine what the subject of the discussion was.

Not to mention that your conclusion is wrong because we all talk about abortion. You're wrong. Again.
As I said if you cant correcrly identify a woman as having XX chromosomes, female anatomy and female reproductive organs, as opposed to man who has XY chromosomes, male anatomy and male reproductive organs, then you dont recognise observable evidence based reality. Gender dysphoria recognises incongruence with the sex the person is, but the gender identity is just a deluded social construct that denies biological sex, and consequently a lie.

Temujin saying 'wrong' is just baseless denial.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Rubbish. By using the term "pregnant person" all ambiguity is removed. Abortion is about people who are pregnant and whether they should be permitted to stop being pregnant. It isn't about women, since a very large number of women cannot become pregnant. It isn't about pregnant animals or pregnant pauses, but pregnant people. There can be no possible objection to the term pregnant person except on ideological grounds by people who would rather be dishonest than inclusive.
Rubbish only woman get pregnant. The spieces has two sexes, male and female. Its only the women who CAN become pregnant. Men who calll themselves giraffes or 'transwomen' cant become pregnant because they are men and not giraffes or women.
Inclusiveness is recognising all people are what they are, not pretending they are whay they arent and excluding people who dont believe the lie.
Your gender identity ideology is a lie, cant get more dishonest than that if you really want to trade insults.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
As I said if you cant correcrly identify a woman as having XX chromosomes, female anatomy and female reproductive organs, as opposed to man who has XY chromosomes, male anatomy and male reproductive organs, then you dont recognise observable evidence based reality. Gender dysphoria recognises incongruence with the sex the person is, but the gender identity is just a deluded social construct that denies biological sex, and consequently a lie.
Strawman. That is not what I said in the post to which you are purportedly replying.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Strawman. That is not what I said in the post to which you are purportedly replying.
So do you agree that a woman has XX chromosomes, female anatomy and female reprodiuctive organs as opposed to men who have XY chromosomes, male anatomy and male reproductive organs.
Because if you think men can be women and men, and be women can be women and men, describe what a woman is in your mind. And if you think you have addressed it, dont troll, just say yes to the biological sex or tell us what a woman is if not a female adult with XX chromosomes, female anatomy and female reproductive organs .
Simple
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
So do you agree that a woman has XX chromosomes, female anatomy and female reprodiuctive organs as opposed to men who have XY chromosomes, male anatomy and male reproductive organs.
Because if you think men can be women and men, and be women can be women and men, describe what a woman is in your mind. And if you think you have addressed it, dont troll, just say yes to the biological sex or tell us what a woman is if not a female adult with XX chromosomes, female anatomy and female reproductive organs .
Simple
Again, not germane to the post to which it is purportedly responding.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Again, not germane to the post to which it is purportedly responding.
Well if you are talking about anything to do with abortion, which the thread is about then its germane because we need to know who the thread involves. If on the other hand you werent talking about anything to do with abortion then you were off topic.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
Well if you are talking about anything to do with abortion, which the thread is about then its germane because we need to know who the thread involves. If on the other hand you werent talking about anything to do with abortion then you were off topic.
Irrelevant. YOU replied with a post that was not germane to the post to which you were purportedly responding. YOU.
 

mikeT

Well-known member
Well if you are talking about anything to do with abortion, which the thread is about then its germane because we need to know who the thread involves.
"We" who?

You? The rest of us seem to have no trouble understanding who the thread involves...
 

BMS

Well-known member
"We" who?

You? The rest of us seem to have no trouble understanding who the thread involves...
No you guys. We who have been asking you to identify who you think the thread involves.
Can you remember the question 'what is a woman'

There is only really you E_S, vibise, Temujin an Eight who dont know and wont say
 

DaGeo

Active member
I don't think he does. That's just his way of ignoring the onus on him to demonstrate (or evidence) the existence of his god.
You’re the guys devoted to disproving a god who doesn’t exist.

I’m guessing you guys are undercover IDers who’s goal is to make evolution devotees look even more gullible than they already are by posting nonsense.

I’m not trying to blow your cover or anything

Rest assured, believers in evolution require more credulity than you could ever imagine
Is the slogan "My Body, My Choice" claiming that the embryo/fetus is at least part of her body (like a leg)?
Ever notice how people who kill other people are so inclined to tell lies.

Now they’re lying about their own devoted cult leaders who claim the fetus is part of the woman’s body.

I offered Noam Chompsky, as an example of their most quoted and most esteemed leaders. He claims the fetus is part of the woman’s body but now these baby killing supporters are denying what their own leader has said‼️‼️

Why not⁉️ They sanction the killing of their own kind‼️‼️ So lying about themselves and lots of other stuff is the frosting on the cake‼️ What should we expect from such criminal minds⁉️⁉️
 

DaGeo

Active member
I don't think he does. That's just his way of ignoring the onus on him to demonstrate (or evidence) the existence of his god.
You’re the guys devoted to disproving a god who doesn’t exist.

I’m guessing you guys are undercover IDers who’s goal is to make evolution devotees look even more gullible than they already are by posting nonsense.

I’m not trying to blow your cover or anything

Rest assured, believers in evolution require more credulity than you could ever imagine
Is the slogan "My Body, My Choice" claiming that the embryo/fetus is at least part of her body (like a leg)?
Ever notice how people who kill other people are so inclined to tell lies.

Now they’re lying about their own devoted cult leaders who claim the fetus is part of the woman’s body.

I offered Noam Chompsky, as an example of their most quoted and most esteemed leaders. He claims the fetus is part of the woman’s body but now these baby killing supporters are denying what their own leader has said‼️‼️

Why not⁉️ They sanction the killing of their own kind‼️‼️ So lying about themselves and lots of other stuff is the frosting on the cake‼️ What should we expect from such criminal minds⁉️⁉️
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
No you guys. We who have been asking you to identify who you think the thread involves.
Can you remember the question 'what is a woman'

There is only really you E_S, vibise, Temujin an Eight who dont know and wont say
Blatantly false. The question has been answered repeatedly.
 
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