Clarifying Question

[DaGeo]

It's a phony rationalisation mistakenly attributed to pro-choice advocates by fools who don't understand what the slogan means.

I also find your argument rather odd. After all it is frequently said that God has every right to inflict pain or death on those He created. Why does a woman not have the same right? This isn't an argument I subscribe to of course, but it highlights the inconsistency in your position.

Like all people everywhere, the woman has the responsibility of serving and obeying God, her Creator.

Since she is owned by the God who made her, she has no right to inflict pain on any other person owned by God.

God can do whatever he pleases with his creation which also includes people because he made them and it

You pretty much do what you want with your stuff, don’t you⁉️ Why can’t God do the same with his stuff⁉️
Actually, all your stuff and you belong to God. You’re just a lowly steward/slave who is supposed to be accountable to the God who owns you.

 

[BMS]

No, that slogan would be a lie, since there is no baby and no murder.

Which is the lie the slogan is designed to cover up.

 

[Temujin]

Chuckle!! Typical "word games". Could be that BLACK really IS "White".

Not really. It is your pleasure to chuckle while spouting nonsense, but it is really true that, legally and morally, there is no murder and no baby. I cannot speak of course for those that chuckle at the realities of morality and the law. They must speak for themselves. Inanities like "black really is white" don't cut it, I'm afraid.

 

[BMS]

Not really. It is your pleasure to chuckle while spouting nonsense, but it is really true that, legally and morally, there is no murder and no baby. I cannot speak of course for those that chuckle at the realities of morality and the law. They must speak for themselves. Inanities like "black really is white" don't cut it, I'm afraid.

Yes really. Its the same insanity that cant recognise a man from a woman, exactly the same spirit
Besides as you keep getting told, this forum is open to all nationalities and in some countries abortion is illegal, legality being your objection from the dictionary definition

Fortunately the tide is turning against woke ideology, ie. Roe v Wade and Tavistock etc.

 

[Temujin]

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 - 10:26 am EDT
DUBLIN, April 4, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Noam Chomsky, the most cited academic in the world, said that an unborn baby is “an organ” and a part of the mother's “own body” during a recent guest lecture at an Irish college.
“There is a strong debate at the moment with regards to a woman's right to control an organ of her own body – namely the fetus,” Chomsky said during a question and answer session at University College Dublin on Tuesday night. “There is legislation being enacted in several U.S. states to define personhood as a fertilized egg. Dr. Chomsky did not provide any scientific reason to believe life begins at any time other than conception.

The comment came as he reflected on the status of the abortion debate in the United States, according to the Irish Times.
“Pretty soon you can imagine legislation prohibiting the washing of hands because thousands of cells are flaked off that could be turned into a stem cell and you can grow a fetus – so you're killing a person,” he said.
“It's attacks on women's rights,” he concluded
Chomsky's lecture, “Can Civilization Survive ‘Really Existing’ Capitalism?” was hosted by the UCD School of Philosophy.
He received the university's highest honor, the UCD Ulysses Medal.
Chomsky holds a Ph.D. in linguistics but is primarily known for his far-Left political views. END OF ARTICLE

Thanks for this. I had never seen this article before. I disagree that the foetus is an organ of its mother. Otherwise, he makes some good points. He was probably well received, given the overwhelming acceptance of abortion rights in the recent Irish referendum.

NOTE TO MYSELF: uninformed anti-intellectual blind followers of the abortion killing field operation who interject their drivel on this form who don’t know this man or else deny they know him, because theyre too embarrassed⁉️

Note to you. Abortion is a non-issue to most people in most of the world. The question has been settled, most recently in Ireland. We don't obsess over the subject, scouring the media for academics to condemn, feeding our loathing and vitriol. We leave that kind of behaviour to you.

A further thought. The defining moment of the abortion debate in Ireland was a public referendum, every voter could take part, and most did so, giving a massive public endorsement of the right of women to terminate their pregnancy through legal abortion. In contrast, the hiatus in US law has been brought about by six unelected, unaccountable, partisan political appointees acting with no reference to or feeling for the views of the people. Yet it is the latter system that is trumpeted as the model for good governance.

 

[BMS]

Thanks for this. I had never seen this article before. I disagree that the foetus is an organ of its mother. Otherwise, he makes some good points. He was probably well received, given the overwhelming acceptance of abortion rights in the recent Irish referendum.

Note to you. Abortion is a non-issue to most people in most of the world. The question has been settled, most recently in Ireland. We don't obsess over the subject, scouring the media for academics to condemn, feeding our loathing and vitriol. We leave that kind of behaviour to you.

A further thought. The defining moment of the abortion debate in Ireland was a public referendum, every voter could take part, and most did so, giving a massive public endorsement of the right of women to terminate their pregnancy through legal abortion. In contrast, the hiatus in US law has been brought about by six unelected, unaccountable, partisan political appointees acting with no reference to or feeling for the views of the people. Yet it is the latter system that is trumpeted as the model for good governance.

Clearly you are out of touch with reality or just trying propaganda, or more likely your feelings about what you would like to be the case. In the US itself the country is split 50 50 red and blue, and its the reds or the blues who pick the judges, so you are wrong in what you claim, its just sour grapes on your part.
And you have many posts saying its legal or illegal, so now abortion is illegal in many states, its the law, bad luck

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Not really. It is your pleasure to chuckle while spouting nonsense, but it is really true that, legally and morally,

Legality, and morality (and Ethically for good measure), Are nothing but Human totally situational concepts.

The Popular present version du Jour says:

there is no murder and no baby.

You can believe that lie if you please. Your choice.

 

[Temujin]

Legality, and morality (and Ethically for good measure), Are nothing but Human totally situational concepts.

Of course. There is nothing else they could be, as we are humans and our cultural and social influences are constantly shifting. This is a good thing.

The Popular present version du Jour says:
"There is no murder. There is no baby."
You can believe that lie if you please. Your choice.

You can believe that it is a lie if you please. Your choice.

 

[BMS]

Of course. There is nothing else they could be, as we are humans and our cultural and social influences are constantly shifting. This is a good thing.

You can believe that it is a lie if you please. Your choice.

What do you mean by choice?