Coming events...

robycop3

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A simple, short summary of the main coming prophetic events...

Soon, either the beast/antichrist will come to power, or the Jews will build a new temple in Jerusalem. Those events will be close together, I believe. Then will come the rapture, just before or just after the beast commits the "abomination of desolation" in the new temple. Then comes the great trib, lasting a little over 3 years. Immediately after the great trib, Jesus will return, as He said in Matt. 24.
 

Timtofly

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Next event is war, famine, plague, and wild beast killing 25% of the population. Then the rapture/Second Coming. Revelation 6:7-17

7 When he broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living being say, “Go!”
8 I looked, and there in front of me was a pallid, sickly-looking horse. Its rider’s name was Death, and Sh’ol followed behind him. They were given authority to kill one-quarter of the world by war, by famine, by plagues and with the wild animals of the earth.

9 When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been put to death for proclaiming the Word of God, that is, for bearing witness.
10 They cried out in a loud voice, “Sovereign Ruler, HaKadosh, the True One, how long will it be before you judge the people living on earth and avenge our blood?”
11 Each of them was given a white robe; and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow-servants should be reached, of their brothers who would be killed, just as they had been.

12 Then I watched as he broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake, the sun turned black as sackcloth worn in mourning, and the full moon became blood-red.
13 The stars fell from heaven to earth just as a fig tree drops its figs when shaken by a strong wind.
14 The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place.
15 Then the earth’s kings, the rulers, the generals, the rich and the mighty — indeed, everyone, slave and free — hid himself in caves and among the rocks in the mountains,
16 and said to the mountains and rocks,Fall on us, and hide us from the face of the One sitting on the throne and from the fury of the Lamb!
17 For the Great Day of their fury has come, and who can stand?"
 
A simple, short summary of the main coming prophetic events...

Soon, either the beast/antichrist will come to power, or the Jews will build a new temple in Jerusalem. Those events will be close together, I believe. Then will come the rapture, just before or just after the beast commits the "abomination of desolation" in the new temple. Then comes the great trib, lasting a little over 3 years. Immediately after the great trib, Jesus will return, as He said in Matt. 24.
How do you know whether or not Trump is the man of sin spoken of by Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, for he certainly fits the bill having as many people deceived by what good they think he is presently doing.

Furthermore, Paul would never speak of the Temple of God in regards to a future event as being a rebuilt Temple in the style of the OT Temple,.

For the scriptures clearly teach that God no longer dwells in temples made by men and so how could Paul call God's Temple a brick and mortar structure made by men when he called the church The Temple of God now instead?

By the way, the rapture will not happen until all other enemies are put under the feet of Jesus at his second coming and including the antichrist and the man of sin and the false prophet and Paul clearly tells us this in the very chapter that is all about the resurrection and rapture in 1 Corinthians.

1 Corinthians 15:22-26

22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

23 But each in turn: Christ (past tense), the firstfruits (Matthew 27:51-53 past tense); then, when he comes, those who belong to him (one future resurrection and rapture).

24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep (suffer physical death), but we will all be changed—

52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”

55 “Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?”
56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.


There is no way around this either, for Paul very clearly not only tells us when the resurrection following rapture will take place in regards to the end of the age, but why it will happen also.

For it will happen after every other enemy of God is first put under the feet of Jesus and only then will he resurrect those who have already died and also rapture those who are alive and waiting for his return and Paul tells us that this will be at the end of the Tribulation and agreeing 100% with Jesus' words also in Matthew 24:29-31. .

The reason why he will be able to do this, is because death will be put under his feet for those believers who are still alive and waiting on his return and therefore there is no such thing as a pre tribulation rapture.

Therefore you better prepare for the persecution of tribulation that is coming for both the remnant true church and also for the Harlot apostate church by the ten kings of Revelation 17 as well.

You wont need to worry about the judgements of God however, just as long as you belong to the true remnant church, for God will protect his own from his judgment through great miracles, but if you are a part of the Harlot, you will not be exempt from the judgments or the persecution from the ten kings.
 

robycop3

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We are in the Revelation era. The coming world ruler should be referred to as the BEAST.

The Jews will commence building the 3rd Temple right after God destroys the invaders of Israel (as per Ezekiel 38-39 and Zechariah 12-14).


Jesus's people will go from earth to heaven upon being beheaded. 'preTrib' "rapture" is just false.



robycop3
Then comes the great trib, lasting a little over 3 years. Immediately after the great trib, Jesus will return, as He said in Matt. 24.

Jesus return in our era is a per Revelation 19.

The Matt 24 return took place at the end of the era of ancient Israel.

No, there's only one return mentioned by Jesus, & it hasn't yet happened. He did NOT return in 70 AD. See anything in history about it?
Remember, in Rev, Jesus said EVERY EYE would see His return, even the eyes of those who pierced Him. Thus, the souls in the 'torments' area of hades will see His return. (The souls in paradise will already have been called out at the rapture.)

The rapture is not Jesus' return. Instead, HE calls the saints to HIM. Those not called won't see Him then. But some will realize what happened, & become "tribulation saints."
 

robycop3

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So you ignore both what Jesus said to the high priest plus Revelation 19. OK, have a nice day.
So you try to make something out of it that's not what He meant. His messenger said "Every eye shall see Him, even those who pierced Him." Since those who pierced Him are long-dead, they shall see His return from hades. That's where Caiaphas will see Him from.

And the events of Rev. 19 haven't yet occurred. History would not hardly have missed such events !

As for His disciples, some saw His transfiguration where He appeared with Moses & Elijah. They evidently knew who Moe & Lige were by His power.
 

brightfame52

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A simple, short summary of the main coming prophetic events...

Soon, either the beast/antichrist will come to power, or the Jews will build a new temple in Jerusalem. Those events will be close together, I believe. Then will come the rapture, just before or just after the beast commits the "abomination of desolation" in the new temple. Then comes the great trib, lasting a little over 3 years. Immediately after the great trib, Jesus will return, as He said in Matt. 24.
I believe the next event will be the second coming of Christ.
 

John Prewett

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I believe the next event will be the second coming of Christ.
as per Revelation 19, Jesus returns on the LAST DAY of the reign of the BEAST.
So the BEAST emerges and reigns YEARS before Jesus returns.

The great error of the preTrib camp is that they refuse to grasp that Paul and Jesus predicted returns (Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, and Rev 1:7)
occured at the end of the era of ancient Israel.

The return of Jesus in OUR era will be as per Revelation 19.
 

John Prewett

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So you try to make something out of it that's not what He meant. His messenger said "Every eye shall see Him, even those who pierced Him." Since those who pierced Him are long-dead, they shall see His return from hades. That's where Caiaphas will see Him from.

And the events of Rev. 19 haven't yet occurred. History would not hardly have missed such events !

As for His disciples, some saw His transfiguration where He appeared with Moses & Elijah. They evidently knew who Moe & Lige were by His power.
As an old man, Caiaphas saw Jesus coming in the clouds with glory nearly 2000 years ago. Sorry you need Roman history to make you believe that.

As you say, Rev 19 has not occurred yet.
 

brightfame52

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as per Revelation 19, Jesus returns on the LAST DAY of the reign of the BEAST.
So the BEAST emerges and reigns YEARS before Jesus returns.

The great error of the preTrib camp is that they refuse to grasp that Paul and Jesus predicted returns (Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, and Rev 1:7)
occured at the end of the era of ancient Israel.

The return of Jesus in OUR era will be as per Revelation 19.
The beast is reigning now, Satan has been loosed. Next thing is second coming.
 

robycop3

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I believe the next event will be the second coming of Christ.
I believe it'll be the coming of the beast/antichrist, as Scripture shows he will be in power when Jesus returns. Remember that the AC & the false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire when He returns, and it's obvious they haven't yet come.
 

robycop3

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As an old man, Caiaphas saw Jesus coming in the clouds with glory nearly 2000 years ago. Sorry you need Roman history to make you believe that.

As you say, Rev 19 has not occurred yet.
No, he didn't. Jesus hasn't yet returned. And I have several boox of Roman history in fronta me, as well as Encyclopaedia Britannica & Collier's Encyclopedia. None of them say any such thing.
 

brightfame52

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I believe it'll be the coming of the beast/antichrist, as Scripture shows he will be in power when Jesus returns. Remember that the AC & the false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire when He returns, and it's obvious they haven't yet come.
The antichrist reigns now. Next thing is Christ Second coming, judgment, eternity.
 

John Prewett

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The beast is reigning now, Satan has been loosed. Next thing is second coming.
Indeed Rev 20:1-3 has not yet come to pass. Be advised the BEAST is not yet reigning. BEAST has still not yet publicly emerged.


The next coming of Jesus will be on LAST DAY of the reign of the BEAST and that will be YEARS from now.
 

brightfame52

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Indeed Rev 20:1-3 has not yet come to pass. Be advised the BEAST is not yet reigning. BEAST has still not yet publicly emerged.


The next coming of Jesus will be on LAST DAY of the reign of the BEAST and that will be YEARS from now.
Yes Rev 20 1-3 has been Satan has been loosed. We are down to Rev 20 :8-9 next is Rev 20 10
 

robycop3

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The antichrist reigns now. Next thing is Christ Second coming, judgment, eternity.
No, the antichrist has not yet been revealed. He may be living now, or he may not even have been born yet. But at any rate, no one now knows who he will be, but God.
 

brightfame52

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No, the antichrist has not yet been revealed. He may be living now, or he may not even have been born yet. But at any rate, no one now knows who he will be, but God.
lol, yes he has been revealed, in fact it began to be revealed during the times of the Apostles 1 Jn 2 18


Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
 

robycop3

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lol, yes he has been revealed, in fact it began to be revealed during the times of the Apostles 1 Jn 2 18


Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Yes, there've been, & are, many ACs. But the coming one will make all of them, as well as Hitler, Stalin, & Pol Pot, look like naughty toddlers in comparison.
 
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