Comparing Mormonism side by side with Traditional Christianity

The Prophet

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their is a wide wide divide

 

The Prophet

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their is a wide wide divide


Gordon B Hinckley does agree that Mormonism follows a different Christ than Traditional Christianity



The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak as been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. He together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the matters of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages." (Church News, June 20, 1998, p70) Gordon B Hinckley

We Look to Christ 2002 General Conference April



 

Bonnie

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From the Book " Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about Mormonism" John Ankerberg and John Weldon

Hi Prophet...One question...where does the LDS church teach, on the left side, Jesus was "once sinful and imperfect"? Now, the Snow couplet about God could imply that God the Father wasconce sinful as we are...But where is it implied that Jesus was?
 
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The Prophet

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Hi Prophet...One question...where does the LDS cnurch teach, on the left side, was "once sinful and imperfect"? Now, tne Snow couplet about God could imply that God the Father wasconce sinful as we are...But where is it implied tjat Jesus was?
Mormons teach there god was a fallen, exalted, saved, finite man like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob


"The Gods who dwell in the Heaven...have been redeemed from the grave in a world which existed before the foundations of this earth were laid. They and the Heavenly body which they now inhabit were once in a fallen state....they were exalted also, from fallen men to Celestial Gods to inhabit their Heaven forever and ever." (Apostle Orson Pratt in The Seer, page 23)



the 1844 LDS publication, Times and Seasons, volume 5, pages 613-614,... Joseph Smith reiterated that God was an exalted man and that Mormon men could also become Gods. This teaching is well documented, as is their claim that God is not a spirit being, but that he has a body of flesh and bone.



“God is a perfected, saved soul enjoying eternal life.” (Second Counselor in the First Presidency, Marion G. Romney, as per Salt Lake Tribune, April 3, 1977.)



It appears ridiculous to the world, under their darkened and erroneous traditions, that God has once been a finite being; and yet we are not in such close communion with him as many have supposed. He has passed on, and is exalted far beyond what we can now comprehend. Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 334



“The Father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked out his salvation by obedience to the same laws he has given to us so that we may do the same." (Apostle Bruce McConkie, A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, p. 64).



Doctrine and Covenant’s 132:

20: 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them.

37 Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.
 

Bonnie

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Mormons teach there god was a fallen, exalted, saved, finite man like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob


"The Gods who dwell in the Heaven...have been redeemed from the grave in a world which existed before the foundations of this earth were laid. They and the Heavenly body which they now inhabit were once in a fallen state....they were exalted also, from fallen men to Celestial Gods to inhabit their Heaven forever and ever." (Apostle Orson Pratt in The Seer, page 23)



the 1844 LDS publication, Times and Seasons, volume 5, pages 613-614,... Joseph Smith reiterated that God was an exalted man and that Mormon men could also become Gods. This teaching is well documented, as is their claim that God is not a spirit being, but that he has a body of flesh and bone.



“God is a perfected, saved soul enjoying eternal life.” (Second Counselor in the First Presidency, Marion G. Romney, as per Salt Lake Tribune, April 3, 1977.)



It appears ridiculous to the world, under their darkened and erroneous traditions, that God has once been a finite being; and yet we are not in such close communion with him as many have supposed. He has passed on, and is exalted far beyond what we can now comprehend. Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 334



“The Father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked out his salvation by obedience to the same laws he has given to us so that we may do the same." (Apostle Bruce McConkie, A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, p. 64).



Doctrine and Covenant’s 132:

20: 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them.

37 Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.
Thanks. However, I think their church has repudiated The Seer, for false teachings, if I remember right. But saying God is a PERFECTED being does imply that, before he was perfected, he was IMperfect, does it not?
 

organgrinder

Active member
Thanks. However, I think their church has repudiated The Seer, for false teachings, if I remember right. But saying God is a PERFECTED being does imply that, before he was perfected, he was IMperfect, does it not?
Bonnie, doesn't the LDS church repudiate anything or anybody that makes them uncomfortable in this internet age? How many teachers and "prophets" have they swept under the rug or relegated to the back room because what they taught was uncomfortable. The usual attack is against the publication that is "wasn't accurate". Kinda like what the Catholic Church does when the pope open his yap in interviews.
 

zerinus

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their is a wide wide divide
So you have changed your mind, and the Book of Mormon does not teach the Trinitarian theology of post-apostate Christendom after all. That is progress I guess. It looks like we are getting somewhere.
 

The Prophet

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Thanks. However, I think their church has repudiated The Seer, for false teachings, if I remember right. But saying God is a PERFECTED being does imply that, before he was perfected, he was IMperfect, does it not?

What the Seer taught agrees with the majority of LDS believers
 

Bonnie

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What the Seer taught agrees with the majority of LDS believers
Perhaps. But I never use it as a proof text, since the LDS church has repudiated it.
But again, saying God is a PERFECTED being, implies that, before that, He was IMperfect. Shameful.
 

Bonnie

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So you have changed your mind, and the Book of Mormon does not teach the Trinitarian theology of post-apostate Christendom after all. That is progress I guess. It looks like we are getting somewhere.
Yes it does. It is there in the BoM in several places. And in the forepart of the book, in the Testimony of the Three Witnesses. It is explicitly Trinitarian, though, unfortunately, it does stray into modalism in a few places, having Jesus as His own Father. But overall, it is monotheistic and Trinitarian.
 

dberrie2020

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Comparing Mormonism side by side with Traditional Christianity​




My question to the Prophet--when you state "Traditional Christianity"--are you referring to first century Christianity--or the invention of Martin Luther some 15 centuries later?
 

The Prophet

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Comparing Mormonism side by side with Traditional Christianity​




My question to the Prophet--when you state "Traditional Christianity"--are you referring to first century Christianity--or the invention of Martin Luther some 15 centuries later?
I see no difference between first century and today
 
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