Conversion, the result of regeneration.

Conversion the result of salvation by faith in the gospel which then gives life, birth . Born again by the gospel , the word of God by faith .

1 Peter 1:21-25
Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.

22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply,from the heart.[b] 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24 For,

“All people are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25 but the word of the Lord endures forever.” And this is the word that was preached to you.
 
not according to scripture
Yes, according to scripture. You may not agree, and thats ok.
John 20:31 (KJV 1900) — 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

faith and then life
Regeneration is first. Once regenerated, we can believe what is written and believe that Jesus is the Christ.
Acts 11:18 (KJV 1900) — 18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

repentance then life
Yes God has elect among the Gentiles. And thosee He regenerates as well.
Colossians 2:12 (KJV 1900) — 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

faith then spiritual resurection (being raised with Christ)

1cor 2:14 never mentions regeneration
Without regenration, there is no saving faith.

1 Cor 2:14, The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

Why does this verse have to mention the word regeneration? Cant you see the teaching? "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God," Why not? Because "they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them," why not? "because they are spiritually discerned."
So, before anyone can understand he must first be regenerated. Because they are spiritually discerned.

So, yes tom, according to scripture.
 
God:
1Cor 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Wow pg, you quote these scripture which build the case for regeneration being first and you don't see it?

The world by wisdom knew not God. but yet, God by the foolishness of preaching the gospel, pleased God to save some? Are you suggesting that some people are smarter and more wise that others therefore able to save themselves?

Then you throw in Titus 3:5?
Pardon me for saying but you look very confused.
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Two regenerations?
Regeneration -> conversion -> belief -> saved -> by the washing of regeneration.
Your not getting it? Would it help if i broke it down for you? would you even listen?
 
Yes, according to scripture. You may not agree, and thats ok.

Regeneration is first. Once regenerated, we can believe what is written and believe that Jesus is the Christ.

Yes God has elect among the Gentiles. And thosee He regenerates as well.

Without regenration, there is no saving faith.

1 Cor 2:14, The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

Why does this verse have to mention the word regeneration? Cant you see the teaching? "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God," Why not? Because "they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them," why not? "because they are spiritually discerned."
So, before anyone can understand he must first be regenerated. Because they are spiritually discerned.

So, yes tom, according to scripture.
Sorry you are simply ignoring facts

faith and repentance lead to life

John 20:31 (KJV 1900) — 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

faith and then life

Acts 11:18 (KJV 1900) — 18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

repentance then life

Colossians 2:12 (KJV 1900) — 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

faith then spiritual resurection (being raised with Christ)

regeneration supplies that life

1cor 2:14 does not mention regeneration and it does not place it before faith
 
They are the regenerated re-regenerated group. They need to be re-regenerated in case the first regeneration did not take hold.
It's obvious that some pay no attention but just joke around. Will you ever take these things serious?
 
Sorry you are simply ignoring facts

faith and repentance lead to life





Colossians 2:12 (KJV 1900) — 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

faith then spiritual resurection (being raised with Christ)

regeneration supplies that life

1cor 2:14 does not mention regeneration and it does not place it before faith
Hey, have it your way tom. Its your own personal humanistic religion. Enjoy it.
 
Yes, according to scripture. You may not agree, and thats ok.

Regeneration is first. Once regenerated, we can believe what is written and believe that Jesus is the Christ.

Yes God has elect among the Gentiles. And thosee He regenerates as well.

Without regenration, there is no saving faith.

1 Cor 2:14, The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

Why does this verse have to mention the word regeneration? Cant you see the teaching? "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God," Why not? Because "they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them," why not? "because they are spiritually discerned."
So, before anyone can understand he must first be regenerated. Because they are spiritually discerned.

So, yes tom, according to scripture.
That verse mentions neither faith or regeneration

so no

faith first then life

John 20:31 (KJV 1900) — 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

faith and then life

Acts 11:18 (KJV 1900) — 18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

repentance then life

Colossians 2:12 (KJV 1900) — 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

faith then spiritual resurection (being raised with Christ)
 
"the Holy Spirit invariably overcomes man's natural resistance to God's call for everyone (elected) who receives the (efficacious) call"
- Steven Charles Ger, Sojourner Ministries on "Calvinism"/his view

is that what is meant by Regeneration ?

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"the Holy Spirit invariably overcomes man's natural resistance to God's call for everyone (elected) who receives the (efficacious) call"
- Steven Charles Ger, Sojourner Ministries on "Calvinism"

is that what is meant by Regeneration ?

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DEFINITION OF REGENERATION
The word regeneration (Gk. paliggenesia) appears only twice in the New Testament. Once it is used eschatologically, “of the renewing of the world in the time of the Messiah” (Matt. 19:28),36 the second usage is “of the rebirth of a redeemed person” (Titus 3:5).37 Regeneration should be distinguished from conversion.
Conversion refers to the response of the human being to God’s offer of salvation and approach to man. Regeneration is the other side of conversion. It is God’s doing. In regeneration the soul is passive; in conversion, it is active. Regeneration may be defined as the communication of divine life to the soul … as the impartation of a new nature … or heart … and the production of a new creation.38
Succinctly stated, to regenerate means “to impart life.” Regeneration is the act whereby God imparts life to the one who believes.
moody handbook of theology
 
DEFINITION OF REGENERATION
The word regeneration (Gk. paliggenesia) appears only twice in the New Testament. Once it is used eschatologically, “of the renewing of the world in the time of the Messiah” (Matt. 19:28),36 the second usage is “of the rebirth of a redeemed person” (Titus 3:5).37 Regeneration should be distinguished from conversion.
Conversion refers to the response of the human being to God’s offer of salvation and approach to man. Regeneration is the other side of conversion. It is God’s doing. In regeneration the soul is passive; in conversion, it is active. Regeneration may be defined as the communication of divine life to the soul … as the impartation of a new nature … or heart … and the production of a new creation.38
Succinctly stated, to regenerate means “to impart life.” Regeneration is the act whereby God imparts life to the one who believes.
moody handbook of theology
is my saying "God enables saving Faith" (but we actually exercise the belief and trust)
correct Calvinistically?
 
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is my saying "God enables saving Faith" (but we actually exercise belief and trust)
correct?
Yes God enables faith

Through his word

Romans 10:17 (KJV 1900) — 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV 1900) — 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 
Hey, have it your way tom. Its your own personal humanistic religion. Enjoy it.
It's not my fault that the Calvinist Regeneration before Faith doctrine lends itself so easily to ridicule. The way to avoid ridicule is to base yourself on the Bible. So far Calvinism has not done that.
 
Hey, have it your way tom. Its your own personal humanistic religion. Enjoy it.
Not my way but the bible's way

and once again it is your affirmation of a man made systematic over the word of God which is humanistic
 
It's not my fault that the Calvinist Regeneration before Faith doctrine lends itself so easily to ridicule. The way to avoid ridicule is to base yourself on the Bible. So far Calvinism has not done that.
Lol.
The humanistic religions would attack that quickly. Huh.
 
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