Copeland and Watches
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BlessedAnomaly
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Never liked Justin, any more than I like KC now. I look in the background of this video and I see oppulance. Not only do I see oppulance, but I see a man who is showing his oppulance, gloating almost. To wit: I've seen videos he's done with nothing more than a door in the background, so this perhaps has not always been a trend.
Do you know that in most jurisdictions it is illegal to buy a crocodile skull? I'm sure he got his legally, though. I don't question that. What else? Jesus on a moped? Really? And leather bound books of these kind do come cheap. But, he's likely made a pretty penny through this ministry of bashing bashing people (like I'm doing to him now for free!!). And these leather bound copies will last for quite a while, so they are a good bargain. If you can afford it, then why not.
Cope milks his congregation for the money he gets.
Justin really does the same -- showboating the wealth of others and it's illicit gain so that, what? He can gain too? If it was just to get the word out, then he'd do this for free or maybe the cost of McDonald's.
So how does a preacher like Cope have a net worth of $760 million? Milk.
And how does a preacher like Justin have a net worth of $4 million? More milk, just with some vanilla flavor so it's more palatable.
Yeah, the pot calling the kettle black. In his own words.....
Do you know that in most jurisdictions it is illegal to buy a crocodile skull? I'm sure he got his legally, though. I don't question that. What else? Jesus on a moped? Really? And leather bound books of these kind do come cheap. But, he's likely made a pretty penny through this ministry of bashing bashing people (like I'm doing to him now for free!!). And these leather bound copies will last for quite a while, so they are a good bargain. If you can afford it, then why not.
Cope milks his congregation for the money he gets.
Justin really does the same -- showboating the wealth of others and it's illicit gain so that, what? He can gain too? If it was just to get the word out, then he'd do this for free or maybe the cost of McDonald's.
So how does a preacher like Cope have a net worth of $760 million? Milk.
And how does a preacher like Justin have a net worth of $4 million? More milk, just with some vanilla flavor so it's more palatable.
Yeah, the pot calling the kettle black. In his own words.....
A new day
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The sad thing is.... is that Copeland spent a great deal of time going on and on about his owning 37 luxury watches and all his other luxury possessions. Where was the gospel message that the unsaved needed to hear in all that?
There is nothing wrong with having extra money, but there is a huge problem if your only goal in life is to be wealthy.
Philippians 4:12
I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.
There is nothing wrong with having extra money, but there is a huge problem if your only goal in life is to be wealthy.
Philippians 4:12
I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.
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BlessedAnomaly
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The worse thing is that Copeland, through that message, thought he was speaking a message on God's blessings. Such is lost on most of that audience. When I went to a prosperity church that's what the people I talked to in the lobby would harp on: how wealthy God will make them if they only.....<whatever the weekend message was>.
preacher4truth
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There's the bias, and the un-Christlike attitude. You'd better repent of that disdain.
This isn't the pot and kettle, it's a true man of God doing his job of exposing heretics like Kenneth Copeland.
Your judgmentalism due to the shelves with books and novelties behind him isn't only asinine, it's petty, and misses the mark. I have the same amount of books, shelves &c as many here and elsewhere also have, so, we too are condemned if we follow your logic. But, thankfully, we don't.
Lastly, comparing an alleged 4 million to the billions Copeland has gotten from shearing the sheep is laughable.
You're very confused and off-track with your scathing and misplaced judgment.
By the way, Peters isn't worth 4 million, his salary has been around 77K per year, ministry income and expenses aside. He lives in Montana, and his income is fairly modest.
Stop spreading ill-informed lies about others and their ministries, namely Justin Peters.
Yodas_Prodigy
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I have spoken to Justin before. He is a kind humble man.
BlessedAnomaly
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Hmm. Do you like Kenneth Copeland without bias? Benny Hinn? Or is your comment denominational?
One man's "true man of God" could be another man's heretic.
This, I actually agree with. But his attack on a single issue talk is petty as well. Now I realize that Cope is a prosperity preacher and does talk about planes and land much. So there's that. But to pick on the watches here is simply Justin hating on Cope. It does no additional good than his other talks about prosperity preachers. Now he just seems like a castigator -- a critic for the sake of criticising.
To achieve $4 million in ministry IS shearing the sheep. It didn't just appear from heaven, carried by angels.
No I'm not. No more than Justin is. I'm doing exactly what he's doing.
You should think again.
Where did the rest come from after adding up $77K x 22 years, minus expenses for paying rent, buying food, etc? That adds up to $1.7M if he saved it all and someone else bought him food and lodging.
The other $2.3 million came from his barber activities -- sheer them sheep, Justin. Kindof like Mark 11:17 -- unless you begin to tip toe around the edges.Justin should stop acting like a self-righteous, pompous donkey. For that matter, you should too.
The log in his eye is much more in need of removing than the splinter in Cope's. Cope has bigger problems than Justin is going to solve.
BlessedAnomaly
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Wonder what he would be like if I spoke to him. Probably would lose that humility just a bit. Not evil, by any means, just less humble.
preacher4truth
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Why are you so kindergarten and carnal in your thinking and reactions? "Don't like him?!"
My comment is not based on whether or not I like a person, yours is based on "I never liked Justin..." then off to your callow disparaging.
I don't like false teachings, heresies. That's completely different.
Spoken like a true heretic. Congrats. I bet you're a Copelandite, correct?
LOL, the pot and the kettle, almost unreal.
He makes 77K. Is that the same as your boy Kenneth?
I don't know, why not grow up and ask him? I'm sure he'd tell you.Where did the rest come from after adding up $77K x 22 years, minus expenses for paying rent, buying food, etc? That adds up to $1.7M if he saved it all and someone else bought him food and lodging.
Yes, you truly are juvenile, and carnal.
Just so you know, and being straightforward, I'd attack Copelands teachings and ministry in the same way Justin Peters does. IF that were my calling.
Yes, we see, your judgment is way off here. Gaslighting, that's what it's called.
Go ahead, get your last asinine word in.
preacher4truth
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They're doing both.
preacher4truth
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Here is a rundown of Justin Peters ministries throughout several years:
Justin Peters Ministries - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Since 2013, the IRS has released data culled from millions of nonprofit tax filings. Use this database to find organizations and see details like their executive compensation, revenue and expenses, as well as download tax filings going back as far as 2001.
projects.propublica.org
preacher4truth
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He'd be him, and you'd be you.
You'd be arrogant, in other words, displaying the character you display here, and elsewhere. He'd be what his character has displayed himself to be as well, humble, studied, insightful, truthful.
That's who he is known as.
Your posts prove my point.
Two different trees bearing two differing fruits.
You keep proving my point.Not evil, by any means, just less humble.
BlessedAnomaly
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And yet, you didn't answer the question. Diversion noted.
That is certainly a thing worthy of embracing. So you must deny Calvin's heresies as well, yes?
Cope had a hand in killing my wife. I certainly am not.
Ad hominem noted. In fact, the second here.
He's worth $4 million. Not quite the $700 million for Cope. They are both shearing the sheep.
How much did Jesus charge for a sermon? For his books? For his tapes? How large was Jesus' TV ministry? Streaming videos?
See my last comment.
More ad hominem. You don't know me.
Show me one person in scripture whose calling was to go after another's ministry. Each one I see, the calling is to preach Jesus and salvation through him alone. This doesn't mean it won't come up. It just means that going after another is not a calling.
More ad hominem and diversion.
I noticed through this entire response you never talked about Justin's positives. You only attacked me. Great...."calling." Definitely no Holy Spirit and love of Christ in that one. Carry on.
BlessedAnomaly
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What does this tell you?Here is a rundown of Justin Peters ministries throughout several years:
Justin Peters Ministries - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Since 2013, the IRS has released data culled from millions of nonprofit tax filings. Use this database to find organizations and see details like their executive compensation, revenue and expenses, as well as download tax filings going back as far as 2001.projects.propublica.org
Look up Larry Ellison for 2011. Annual income as from this IRS database you show would be $1. He netted $77M in compensation.
Tell me you know nothing about finances without saying outright that you know nothing about finances.
BlessedAnomaly
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Elsewhere? Where is that, preacher?? Where else have you interacted with me? Where else have you seen me "be"?
Now, without ad hominem, from the facts you present here, I can truly call you a liar.
Justin is happy. He's found a way to shear the sheep. Quite profitable for him.
You keep showing your arrogance, preacher.
Learner also
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Hmm. Do you like Kenneth Copeland without bias? Benny Hinn? Or is your comment denominational?
One man's "true man of God" could be another man's heretic.
This, I actually agree with. But his attack on a single issue talk is petty as well. Now I realize that Cope is a prosperity preacher and does talk about planes and land much. So there's that. But to pick on the watches here is simply Justin hating on Cope. It does no additional good than his other talks about prosperity preachers. Now he just seems like a castigator -- a critic for the sake of criticising.
To achieve $4 million in ministry IS shearing the sheep. It didn't just appear from heaven, carried by angels.
No I'm not. No more than Justin is. I'm doing exactly what he's doing.
You should think again.
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Where did the rest come from after adding up $77K x 22 years, minus expenses for paying rent, buying food, etc? That adds up to $1.7M if he saved it all and someone else bought him food and lodging.
Justin should stop acting like a self-righteous, pompous donkey. For that matter, you should too.
The log in his eye is much more in need of removing than the splinter in Cope's. Cope has bigger problems than Justin is going to solve.
Justin Peters Ministries - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Since 2013, the IRS has released data culled from millions of nonprofit tax filings. Use this database to find organizations and see details like their executive compensation, revenue and expenses, as well as download tax filings going back as far as 2001.
projects.propublica.org
Justin Peters Ministries, Full Filing - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Since 2013, the IRS has released data culled from millions of nonprofit tax filings. Use this database to find organizations and see details like their executive compensation, revenue and expenses, as well as download tax filings going back as far as 2001.
projects.propublica.org
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JUSTIN PETERS MINISTRIES — 2022 990
Internal Revenue 990 Filings for JUSTIN PETERS MINISTRIES for 2022
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