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TomFL
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tell me the different parties referenced in that psalm
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TomFL
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TomFL
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Jesus was not elected to be saved
The nation of Israel were not all elected to be saved
And btw BDAD refutes you also
ἐκλεκτός, ή, όν (since Pla., Leg. 12 p. 946D; inscr., pap., LXX, En., Philo; Jos., Ant. 7, 59; Test. 12 Patr.; Sib. Or.).
1. chosen, select—a. gener. of angels 1 Ti 5:21 (after En. 39, 1). Of the Messiah ὁ ἐ. τοῦ θεοῦ (cf. En. 39, 6f; 40, 5; 45, 3-5; 49, 2-4 al.) Lk 23:35 (cf. 9:35); J 1:34 v.l. (AvHarnack, SAB ’15, 552-6=Studien I ’31, 127-32). Of David 1 Cl 52:2 (Ps 88:20; cf. Sir 47:22).
William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature : A Translation and Adaption of the Fourth Revised and Augmented Edition of Walter Bauer’s Griechisch-Deutsches Worterbuch Zu Den Schrift En Des Neuen Testaments Und Der Ubrigen Urchristlichen Literatur (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979), 242.
Theo1689
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You are NOT "the word of God".
And you have demonstrated that you do not UNDERSTAND "the word of God".
Sorry, I will NEVER "accept" your false teachings.
I believe I've told you that at least a hundred times by now.
Theo1689
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That's quite random and irrelevant.
Jesus never sinned.
No kidding.
Another random and irrelevant factoid.
It's "BDAG", not "BDAD".
And no, it doesn't.
Where do you see "election to service" there?
You're imagining things.
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TomFL
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Give it up
you denied election could be used in a sense other than salvation
Is salvation for angels
Is Christ is need of salvation
Was all of Israel elected to salvation or was Israel God's servant
Is. 45:4; 49:3 —KJV
“For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
I gave you three references
You were corrected accept it
Theo1689
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I don't take orders from you.
YOU "give it up".
Nobody is forcing you to try to force your false teachings down people's throats.
And I am correct.
You don't understand Scripture.
You simply twist it and abuse it.
And God will call you on it one day.
You have been warned.
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TomFL
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Accept your correction
Israel was an elect servant
They were not elected to salvation
Christ was the elect
Not to salvation but as a servant
The only false teaching exposed here was yours
Theo1689
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Since you DIDN'T "correct" me,
and since you have no AUTHORITY to "correct" me,
you need to kindly get over yourself.
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TomFL
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Scripture is all the authority needed
You were corrected
Jesus was the elect servant
Israel was an elect servant
The angels can be elect
None of these were to get saved
Theo1689
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YOU are the one who needs to admit YOUR error.
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TomFL
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You lost
man up
Jesus was elect he was not getting saved
Israel was elect they were not all savedbut they were servants
Angels are elect no salvation for them they are however servants as well
Theo1689
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TomFL
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Same ole stop harassing's me comment we always see when you are proven wrong
This does not change however
Jesus was elect he was not getting saved. He is portrayed as a servant
Israel was elect they were not all saved but they were servants
Angels are elect no salvation for them they are however servants as well
brightfame52
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I dont need to do all that, you do if you trying to make a point. Paul took that verse out of its context and applied it to what he was teaching about men born under sin, like we all are. Also pay attention to how Paul extracted a scripture out of its original context to make a point. You try to condemned me for doing that, do you condemn Paul too ?
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TomFL
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You don't want to do it then don't do it
brightfame52
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So do you understand Cornelius was saved and born again before he heard the Gospel from Peter ?
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TomFL
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No
Acts 11:14 —ESV
“he will declare to you a message by which you will be saved, you and all your household.’”
brightfame52
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Im so sorry you dont understand that, but he was, and everyone who feared God in his household was born again before they believed the Gospel Acts 10 2
2 a devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
God sends the word of Salvation to them that fear Him Acts 13 26
26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.
He is showing them His Covenant Ps 25 14
The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him;
and he will shew them his covenant.
brightfame52
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I showed you an article explaining the phrase " ye shall be saved" You flipped it off !