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TomFL

Well-known member
The word of God corrected you

accept it

Jesus was not elected to be saved

The nation of Israel were not all elected to be saved

And btw BDAD refutes you also



ἐκλεκτός, ή, όν (since Pla., Leg. 12 p. 946D; inscr., pap., LXX, En., Philo; Jos., Ant. 7, 59; Test. 12 Patr.; Sib. Or.).
1. chosen, select—a. gener. of angels 1 Ti 5:21 (after En. 39, 1). Of the Messiah ὁ ἐ. τοῦ θεοῦ (cf. En. 39, 6f; 40, 5; 45, 3-5; 49, 2-4 al.) Lk 23:35 (cf. 9:35); J 1:34 v.l. (AvHarnack, SAB ’15, 552-6=Studien I ’31, 127-32). Of David 1 Cl 52:2 (Ps 88:20; cf. Sir 47:22).


William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature : A Translation and Adaption of the Fourth Revised and Augmented Edition of Walter Bauer’s Griechisch-Deutsches Worterbuch Zu Den Schrift En Des Neuen Testaments Und Der Ubrigen Urchristlichen Literatur (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979), 242.
 

Theo1689

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Jesus was not elected to be saved

That's quite random and irrelevant.
Jesus never sinned.

The nation of Israel were not all elected to be saved

No kidding.
Another random and irrelevant factoid.

And btw BDAD refutes you also

It's "BDAG", not "BDAD".

And no, it doesn't.

ἐκλεκτός, ή, όν (since Pla., Leg. 12 p. 946D; inscr., pap., LXX, En., Philo; Jos., Ant. 7, 59; Test. 12 Patr.; Sib. Or.).
1. chosen, select—a. gener. of angels 1 Ti 5:21 (after En. 39, 1). Of the Messiah ὁ ἐ. τοῦ θεοῦ (cf. En. 39, 6f; 40, 5; 45, 3-5; 49, 2-4 al.) Lk 23:35 (cf. 9:35); J 1:34 v.l. (AvHarnack, SAB ’15, 552-6=Studien I ’31, 127-32). Of David 1 Cl 52:2 (Ps 88:20; cf. Sir 47:22).


William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature : A Translation and Adaption of the Fourth Revised and Augmented Edition of Walter Bauer’s Griechisch-Deutsches Worterbuch Zu Den Schrift En Des Neuen Testaments Und Der Ubrigen Urchristlichen Literatur (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979), 242.

Where do you see "election to service" there?
You're imagining things.
 

TomFL

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That's quite random and irrelevant.
Jesus never sinned.



No kidding.
Another random and irrelevant factoid.



It's "BDAG", not "BDAD".

And no, it doesn't.



Where do you see "election to service" there?
You're imagining things.
Give it up

you denied election could be used in a sense other than salvation

Is salvation for angels

Is Christ is need of salvation

Was all of Israel elected to salvation or was Israel God's servant

Is. 45:4; 49:3 —KJV
“For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”


I gave you three references

You were corrected accept it
 

Theo1689

Well-known member
Give it up

I don't take orders from you.
YOU "give it up".
Nobody is forcing you to try to force your false teachings down people's throats.

you denied election could be used in a sense other than salvation

And I am correct.

I gave you three references

You were corrected accept it

You don't understand Scripture.
You simply twist it and abuse it.
And God will call you on it one day.
You have been warned.
 

TomFL

Well-known member
I don't take orders from you.
YOU "give it up".
Nobody is forcing you to try to force your false teachings down people's throats.
Accept your correction

Israel was an elect servant

They were not elected to salvation

Christ was the elect

Not to salvation but as a servant

The only false teaching exposed here was yours






And I am correct.



You don't understand Scripture.
You simply twist it and abuse it.
And God will call you on it one day.
You have been warned.
 

TomFL

Well-known member
Since you DIDN'T "correct" me,
and since you have no AUTHORITY to "correct" me,
you need to kindly get over yourself.
Scripture is all the authority needed

You were corrected

Jesus was the elect servant

Israel was an elect servant

The angels can be elect

None of these were to get saved
 

Theo1689

Well-known member
Scripture is all the authority needed

You were corrected

Jesus was the elect servant

Israel was an elect servant

The angels can be elect

None of these were to get saved

YOU are the one who needs to admit YOUR error.
 

TomFL

Well-known member
YOU are the one who needs to admit YOUR error.
You lost

man up

Jesus was elect he was not getting saved

Israel was elect they were not all savedbut they were servants

Angels are elect no salvation for them they are however servants as well
 

Theo1689

Well-known member
You lost

man up

Jesus was elect he was not getting saved

Israel was elect they were not all savedbut they were servants

Angels are elect no salvation for them they are however servants as well

You're wrong.
Please stop harassing me.
Have a nice day.
 

TomFL

Well-known member
You're wrong.
Please stop harassing me.
Have a nice day.
Same ole stop harassing's me comment we always see when you are proven wrong

This does not change however

Jesus was elect he was not getting saved. He is portrayed as a servant

Israel was elect they were not all saved but they were servants

Angels are elect no salvation for them they are however servants as well
 

brightfame52

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tell me the different parties referenced in that psalm
I dont need to do all that, you do if you trying to make a point. Paul took that verse out of its context and applied it to what he was teaching about men born under sin, like we all are. Also pay attention to how Paul extracted a scripture out of its original context to make a point. You try to condemned me for doing that, do you condemn Paul too ?
 

TomFL

Well-known member
I dont need to do all that, you do if you trying to make a point. Paul took that verse out of its context and applied it to what he was teaching about men born under sin, like we all are. Also pay attention to how Paul extracted a scripture out of its original context to make a point. You try to condemned me for doing that, do you condemn Paul too ?

You don't want to do it then don't do it
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
No

Acts 11:14 —ESV
“he will declare to you a message by which you will be saved, you and all your household.’”
Im so sorry you dont understand that, but he was, and everyone who feared God in his household was born again before they believed the Gospel Acts 10 2

2 a devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

God sends the word of Salvation to them that fear Him Acts 13 26

26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

He is showing them His Covenant Ps 25 14


The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him;
and he will shew them his covenant.
 
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