Counterintelligence - FBI

"Trust the Plan" -

"...former US President Donald Trump had learned of this deep state cabal and was attempting to dismantle it from within, and was depending on his supporters to help him in this campaign. Eventually, these evil doers and those that enable them would be arrested in a major event known as “the Storm.” Following these mass arrests, the rest of humanity would be awakened to the true evil that was operating right under their noses. This moment of realization – known as “the Great Awakening” in QAnon terminology – would lead to a new society free of evil. As Mike Rothschild (2021, p. 5) notes*, “it’s not just a conspiracy theory or game to these people. It’s a ringside ticket to the final match between good and evil.”


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Whether or not we consider QAnon to be a religious movement, it certainly has a millennial aspect. As noted above, the movement began with a failed prophecy, Q’s drops were widely interpreted as prophetic by the wider Anon community, and “Trust the Plan” became one of the movement’s rallying cries. Multiple dates were suggested for the commencement of “The Storm” (the most common name for the endpoint of Trump’s supposed Plan), with January 6th eventually being established as the key date. The Storm is usually predicted to involve a wave of arrests of (mostly) Democratic politicians, media figures and others accused of corruption, collusion and, frequently, Satanic child abuse. The Storm is seen as a vanguard of a longer period of global societal transformation:

These times we are in are a great test to see who is faithful and who was pretending. This is the great Awakening before the times of destruction come."


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Reference: "How Conspiracy Theorists Argue"

- * Rothschild, M. (2021). The storm is upon us: How QAnon became a movement, cult, and conspiracy theory of everything. Brooklyn, NY: Melville House.
 
FBI - Made in Beijing: The Plan for Global Market Domination. March 7th, 2022

"China’s efforts target businesses, academic institutions, researchers, lawmakers, and the general public and will require a whole-of-society response. The government and the private sector must commit to working together to better understand and counter the threat."

Counterintelligence

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Authentic Nouveau said:
".I need some new conspiracy theories,

All my old ones have become FACTS."
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Moving away from conspiracy theory and focusing on hard evidence, we know that the secret police of the People’s Republic of China conducts operations within the United States by interfering with federal elections, planting surveillance equipment to spy on U.S. residents, and even physically attacking people on occasion in an effort to influence our laws and restrict our freedoms.

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inertia said:
Moving away from conspiracy theory and focusing on hard evidence, we know that the secret police of the People’s Republic of China conducts operations within the United States by interfering with federal elections, planting surveillance equipment to spy on U.S. residents, and even physically attacking people on occasion in an effort to influence our laws and restrict our freedoms.

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We also know the F.B.I. spy's on American citizens, like parents.

Sorry if you are a former spook or whatever, the F.B.I. is hopelessly politically biased and corrupt. That you don't seem to care makes you irrelevant.
 
Furion said:
We also know the F.B.I. spy's on American citizens, like parents.

Sorry if you are a former spook or whatever, the F.B.I. is hopelessly politically biased and corrupt. That you don't seem to care makes you irrelevant.
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Regarding the NSA and FBI, Snowden is a traitor that violated his signed oath and is currently hiding out in Russia with his comrade Putin and maybe even watching the invasion of Ukraine while desperately working to extend his residency permit. There are many avenues that he could have used to address the issue. Instead, Snowden's family is under the thumb of an autocratic government now where every conversation is monitored and recorded every day. :rolleyes: ...the irony

Years ago, the FBI changed its processes as required to secure the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court's (FISC’s) approval, and accordingly, last year, the Federal Court Approved the FBI's continued use of warrantless surveillance.

Why would the Federal Court do that?

"FISA includes the congressional mandate that the Section 702 program be conducted consistently with the Fourth Amendment. In carefully balancing the nation’s security with its cherished constitutional principles, Congress has fashioned a role for the FISC that calls for oversight, review and correction—rather than termination—when surveillance practices encroach on those constitutional precepts."

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FBI operation - takedown Russian GRU botnet

"Cyclops Blink and VPNFilter are attributed to Sandworm, a group of hackers working for Russia’s GRU, the country’s military intelligence unit.

According to the Justice Department, the court order had the “immediate effect of preventing Sandworm from accessing these C2 devices, thereby disrupting Sandworm’s control of the infected bot devices controlled by the remediated C2 devices.”

"Yesterday’s Darknet takedown struck a blow against Russian criminals and the ecosystem of cryptocurrency tumblers, money launders, malware purveyors, and others supporting them. The botnet disruption we’re announcing today strikes a blow against Russian intelligence, the Russian government."


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inertia said:
Looking ^that^ up... ( Is the President of the United States above national security law? )

I would be very surprised if I hear that the Mar-a-Lago residence is also a sensitive compartmentalized information facility (SCIF).

- Exec. Order No. 13526, § 4.2: "The information being accessed may not be removed from the controlling agency’s premises without permission. Each agency is required to establish systems for controlling the distribution of classified information."

Concerning the Mar-a-Lago case, I believe that it is the "Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO) - an office within the National Archives -is charged with overseeing compliance with the classification standards and promulgating directives".

That said, a president "may exercise his prerogative as Commander in Chief to declassify specific information in an address to the Nation or in a message to the Congress seeking additional funds for a weapons system".

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Months later: From CNBC

FBI agents spent several hours Monday at former President Donald Trump’s South Florida home and private club. Various outlets reported that the search was at least related to a Justice Department investigation into why and how 15 boxes of White House records — which included documents marked as classified — ended up at Mar-a-Lago instead of the National Archives. A lawyer for Trump told NBC News that agents seized documents. Trump himself was in New York on Monday. The search came as Trump faces escalating legal problems stemming from a House committee’s probe of the Jan. 6 pro-Trump insurrection at the Capitol and a Georgia investigation into election interference. The political impact from the raid and its aftermath is shaping up to be seismic, as Trump weighs another run for the White House and Republicans attempt to win Congress this fall.

Trump and Protecting Classified Information:


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inertia said:
Months later: From CNBC

FBI agents spent several hours Monday at former President Donald Trump’s South Florida home and private club. Various outlets reported that the search was at least related to a Justice Department investigation into why and how 15 boxes of White House records — which included documents marked as classified — ended up at Mar-a-Lago instead of the National Archives. A lawyer for Trump told NBC News that agents seized documents. Trump himself was in New York on Monday. The search came as Trump faces escalating legal problems stemming from a House committee’s probe of the Jan. 6 pro-Trump insurrection at the Capitol and a Georgia investigation into election interference. The political impact from the raid and its aftermath is shaping up to be seismic, as Trump weighs another run for the White House and Republicans attempt to win Congress this fall.

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The whole thing was a political move.
 
inertia said:
Since Mar-a-Lago is not a SCIF, and classified documents were stored there how can -we the people- know that we did everything possible to keep that information secure from the wrong hands?

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Do you really think that no other public official takes top secret documents home with them?
 
glenlogie said:
Do you really think that no other public official takes top secret documents home with them?
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Since "public officials" are also people, transporting or storing classified documents in an unauthorized facility applies only to people that want to keep their job and stay away from prison*.

"A person is in violation of the law if they knowingly and willfully perform any of the following acts involving confidential information:
  • Communicate, furnish, transmit, or otherwise make it available to an unauthorized person
  • Publish it
  • Use it in a way that is either prejudicial to the safety or interest of the U.S., or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the U.S.
The penalty for a conviction of unauthorized disclosure includes up to 10 years in prison, a large fine, or both."

For bank robbery: 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

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inertia said:
Since "public officials" are also people, transporting or storing classified documents in an unauthorized facility applies only to people that want to keep their job and stay away from prison*.

"A person is in violation of the law if they knowingly and willfully perform any of the following acts involving confidential information:
  • Communicate, furnish, transmit, or otherwise make it available to an unauthorized person
  • Publish it
  • Use it in a way that is either prejudicial to the safety or interest of the U.S., or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the U.S.
The penalty for a conviction of unauthorized disclosure includes up to 10 years in prison, a large fine, or both."

For bank robbery: 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

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That does not really answer my question. I did not ask what the penalties were. Do you think they have the idea that they can get away with it?
 
glenlogie said:
I would agree with that. Knowing that this is conjecture, how widespread do you think the problem is?
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The word "bad" doesn't adequately encapsulate the problem of the theft of secrets. Whatever word is more appropriate, the problem is in reality even worse IMHO.



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inertia said:
The word "bad" doesn't adequately encapsulate the problem of the theft of secrets. Whatever word is more appropriate, the problem is in reality even worse IMHO.



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I go along with that. It seems that the ruling class think themselves exempt from certain laws.
 
glenlogie said:
I go along with that. It seems that the ruling class think themselves exempt from certain laws.
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Sometimes this is the case, and sometimes it's the overworked, underpaid person that wants the "thrill" and the extra-fat check(s). In other cases the reason for disclosing secrets is purely political with the hope that another adversary will tear apart the United States.

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