It's absolutely amazing how weird cults can get and yet people for fall it. My hope is that the Guests that come here hoping to find out the truth about Mormonism will be enlightened. The people that post here and think they're defending Mormonism do not realize how sad they look and that they're fighting a losing battle. Any guest reading the posts here can see that easily. And by the way as I'm sure you know most of the time the guests here outnumber the members. So we got to keep plugging away!Those hand gestures appear to be ready to make a slashing movement across the throat, to indicate that the participant would have their throats slit, rather than reveal what they experienced in the temple endowment....such gestures, along with the 5-point fellowship touching, were removed in 1990...the all over anointing with oil and water was discontinued in 2005...so many changes in a ceremony that Smith claimed came from God and must not be changed...
It isn't? But if one wants to be justified by keeping the commandments, then one MUST keep them faultlessly:The answer to my question is no it wasn't required that the rich young man keep the commandments faultlessly.
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.” 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them. (Gal. 3)
A contingency plan for LDS? Not according to your religion or its leaders as salvation is by works and works is following the law and there is no grace in law (Romans 11:6, But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace."
If you want a contingency plan, check out Galatians 2:16-21 and 1 John 1:5-10 that I posted previously.
Because Mormons are incapable of answering questions.They lose 10 I.Q. points for each month they continue being Mormon.
Yes we sin daily, do we not? But we are no longer slaves to our sinful nature, for we have been been made a new creation in Christ Jesus our Lord, and the indwelling HS changes us, so that we want to do what pleases God--not because we MUST, but because we WANT to. What did Paul say?Still no answer then to my question can you sin and still be saved.
Here's 2 more questions.
1. What is the purpose and need for repentance?
2. What is the purpose of the sacrament?
20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
21 So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. 22 For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, 23 but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord!
Yes we sin daily, do we not? But we are no longer slaves to our sinful nature, for we have been been made a new creation in Christ Jesus our Lord, and the indwelling HS changes us, so that we want to do what pleases God--not because we MUST, but because we WANT to. What did Paul say?
Was Paul saved?
We need to repent of our sins, which is humbling, and only by being humbled can we receive the gift of God's forgiveness..."God opposes the proud, but shows favor to the humble." Only when we are humble, and admit that we are helpless to save ourselves can we then even feel the need to repent. The HS convicts us of our sins, but HE also enables us to repent of them, for no one is going to repent of sins to a God in whom they have no faith.
The sacraments of Holy Baptism and the Lord's Supper are for the forgiveness of sins, means of grace. But this discussion on sacraments is more for another board or boards, not here.
I sense that we're about to be entertained by a whole slew of laws and commandments that we're not keeping.LDS who are baptized have taken a vow that promises to keep all the laws and commandments of God.
No. We don't.Each Sunday when they partake of the sacrament they re-pledge and renew that vow again as they commit their allegiance and faithfulness as they
promise and covenant that they will keep all of God's commandments.
The word "all" is not issued in a vacuum. Specifically, it does not mean that you or anyone else gets to pick what falls within that realm.All means all with no exceptions
That may be what you believe, but it's not what we believe. God the Father, just like Jesus, His Son, never sinned. But both were once mortal men, the same as we mortal, i.e. They could die, feel pain and joy, be cut and bleed, eat and drink, etc... none of which are sins.But, I guess if the LDS god who was once a fallen sinful man
My hope is that the Guests that come here hoping to find out the truth about Mormonism will be enlightened. The people that post here and think they're defending Mormonism do not realize how sad they look and that they're fighting a losing battle. Any guest reading the posts here can see that easily. And by the way as I'm sure you know most of the time the guests here outnumber the members. So we got to keep plugging away!
Not answering questions in Mormonism must be contagious
Mormons talk about a “burning in the bosom” that will confirm their outlandish claim claims. Yet the trouble with subjective, inner feelings is that they can be deceptive.
The Bible tells us that “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9).
It also says, “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” (Proverbs 14:12).
So how can we trust our feelings the way Mormons would have us believe? That little sweet “burning in the bosom” that will lead you As far from the Bible and Almighty God as you get. The truth is you can't and they really can't back up any of their claims because in reality they are elaborate deceptions.
Now the real question is, Did Joseph Smith teach men to follow a god other than the one in the Bible?
Why he most certainly did...A false god and A false religion!
As far as the identity of the Mormon god, it is obvious from there own teaching that their god is:
1. an exalted, resurrected man, in possession of a physical, but glorified body.
2. evolved from a normal human male.
3. limited in both power and knowledge.
4. subject to gods above him.
5. unable to create something out of nothing.
Most Mormon missionaries will admit to these false doctrines stated above , and they can all be found in the standard writings of LDS prophets. On the other hand, the biblical God
1. is a Spirit (John 4:24),
2. is not a man, nor the son of a man (Numbers 23:19).
3. is all powerful (Habakkuk 3:6; Matthew 19:26) and all-knowing (Psalm 1475; Hebrews 4:13; 1 John 3:20).
4. says there are no other gods before Himself (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6–8).
5. made the entire universe from nothing (Genesis 1:1, 2; Hebrews 11:3).
It is clear that in these five key areas the Mormon god and the God of the Bible are exact opposites; they cannot possibly be the same being. This means that Joseph Smith preached a false god, and that makes him a false prophet. It is that simple.
And this is why Mormons are incapable of answering questions. A person can remember the truth but are deception is a lot harder. It's hard to remember who you told what perpetrating massive deception like Mormonism.
That's why here you can get Mormons to focus on anything pertaining to the truth. Because they don't have the truth. Therefore all one gets from them is a whole lota shucking & jiving...which is what people well versed in the art of deception to best. You see here everyday.