Would powell have died the day he did if he hadn't gotten stabbed?
COVID-19 hospitalization, death rates ~60x higher for unvaccinated vs. boosted
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Bonnie
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He died from covid complications, not the vaccine.
Right had he gotten an actual covid vaccine, you know the old fashioned kind that stopped people from getting a disease, he might still be alive. Thanks.
Bonnie
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. The Chinese had one made from the dead virus, and in its stage three trials, was 51% efficacious in preventing the disease--vs. 90-95% with the mRNA against the original strain--but 100% in preventing severe disease and hospitalization.
I suspect over the next few years vaccines of all types--dead, subunit, and mRNA--will be tweaked to make them more efficacious against variants in actually preventing disease, and also, last longer.
But the fact remains--the unvaccinated have a much higher rate of death from the virus, as well as hospitalization and severe disease, than the vaccinated.
When they have an actual vaccine get back to me but until then stop this idiocy
Bonnie
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What idiocy? I just mentioned the Sinovac vaccine efficacy against the mRNA efficacy, with the original strains. I forgot to say where the info came from, though--WHO. It has info about all of the available vaccines.
But again, I do hope in the near future that vaccines more effective against variants become available and that they last longer, too, and we need get it only once a year.
But it isn't "Idiocy" that severe illness, hospitalizations, and death are far more common in the unvaccinated, than in the vaccinated.
The unstabbed have been more at risk for those from the beginning that's not new. You have a stab that doesn't prevent the spread of the disease and you won't stop trying to force it. If your stab protects you then it's no business of yours or the govts what I put in my body. The idiocy started from day one but the polluted hypnotized can't see it. Clean bloods can though
Bonnie
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Yes, the vaccinated can spread the disease, but then, so can the unvaccinated. Both can be asymptomatic yet carry a full load of virus before actually coming down with the disease. But the UNvaccinated still have a much higher risk of serious disease, hospitalization, and death than the fully vaccinated.
I have never ever tried to "force" anyone to get the vaccine.
Look, Yakuda, I wish you would remember what I have written to you on here, and stop bringing this up to me. I have said a number of times on here to you and others that I don't think anyone should be forced to get the vaccine, though I can understand the necessity for it for those in medical professions.
But those of us who have chosen to get the vaccine are not "polluted hypnotized" people. That is a rather wild and unkind thing to say. Would you like it if we who have chosen to get the vaccine said those that refuse are "polluted hypnotized" people and cannot see it?
Bonnie
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Sorry, but that may not be true. The Chinese Sinovac dead virus one was only 51% effective in preventing the actual disease, though highly protective against hospitalization and severe disease. But "getting the disease" is what you wrote. .But don't forget--Powell had a virulent form of blood cancer that killed my Mormon friend, and that meant his immune system was very compromised. I don't remember if he was on any chemo treatments at the time he got his booster shot, but such a disease weakens a person's immune sytsem--so no vaccine may have worked very well for him. At any rate, it is all speculation.
None of that matters if the stabbed can still spread the disease. The insta bed do not pose a threat to the stabbed so stop with the nonsense.
I just say what I observe.
All speculation....there you have it
Authentic Nouveau
Well-known member
Notice you have no proof.
Adverse events are clot shot complications.
Were you there?
Your political talking points all you have? Why didn't the Clot Shot keep him from getting infected? It was peddled to be especially important for high risk patients.
Snake oil salesmen can't overcome objections.
Whateverman
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Notice you have no job.
Notice you're ignorant of what you lecture others about.
Authentic Nouveau
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Clot shot is not a vaccine.
Communist Biden uses his mandates in hopes of getting the finest physicians fired.
Wicked communists have NO problem when the control freak Joe makes decisions to damage healthcare.
Hate filled dishonest left wingers spread lies about Ivermectin.
Half is malice and half is ignorance.
Unemployed church people do not make America healthy.
She has treated over 2,000 patients successfully and the local left wing trolls have helped NOT a single one.
Why is lying so popular with militant leftistas?
She also mentioned how she was being bullied.
The bullies here have no respect of patients that have been harmed by Clot Shots.
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Authentic Nouveau
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More unproven stories. You are so fond of denying what Christian Conservatives report. For hours every day. We really can't put a lot of weight on your theories.
The boosters don't delay DVT complications.
Bonnie
Super Member
So, it is unproven that Powell had multiple myeloma which gave him a very compromised immune system???
And the ultra rightists on here are so very fond of posting much that is fake news and/or highly sensationalistic news. Which means those of us that prefer truth to lies need to counter those lies and exaggerations with the truth.
What "theories"? Powell did have multiple myeloma, a type of blood cancer which affected his immune system and ability to respond fully to vaccines. I had a good Mormon friend die from that disease almost 2 years ago. I still miss her.
What is that supposed to mean? Covid itself can cause DVT.
You people have done an extremely poor job of supporting your conspiracy.
LA County
“Los Angeles County Health Director Barbara Ferrer said Thursday that unvaccinated people in the county are 14 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those that have been fully vaccinated.
The hospitalization rate for unvaccinated people is 28 per 100,000 residents in LA County, while the rate for the vaccinated has remained relatively flat at 1 per 100,000, she said.”
abc7.com
“Los Angeles County Health Director Barbara Ferrer said Thursday that unvaccinated people in the county are 14 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those that have been fully vaccinated.
The hospitalization rate for unvaccinated people is 28 per 100,000 residents in LA County, while the rate for the vaccinated has remained relatively flat at 1 per 100,000, she said.”
LA County COVID data show stark difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated | abc7.com
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abc7.com
That's always been the case. So what? Your supposed vaccine protects you so why do you care. Please dont bore us with the selfish argument. It's moronic.LA County
“Los Angeles County Health Director Barbara Ferrer said Thursday that unvaccinated people in the county are 14 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those that have been fully vaccinated.
The hospitalization rate for unvaccinated people is 28 per 100,000 residents in LA County, while the rate for the vaccinated has remained relatively flat at 1 per 100,000, she said.”
LA County COVID data show stark difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated | abc7.com
New%20LA%20County%20data%20shows%20a%20sharp%20difference%20in%20death%20and%20hospitalization%20rates%20in%20those%20who%20have%20been%20vaccinated%20for%20COVID%20versus%20those%20who%20have%20not.
Get back to me when you wake up.