Covid Update

I've been taking a break from Politics due to my health. When I first heard of Covid, I started digging again, and what I found was concerning.....

i have pages and pages of documents I can share, but lets go with the latest news.

I was trying to track down the origin. When it first came out, they said it came out of a Wuhan Lab. Then it was the wet markets, someone ate a bat, then I read some Jewish proffessor at Harvard was selling US bio chemicals to the Wuhan University(and went to jail for it). Then I heard Obama was financing virus research at the Wuhan lab....

What I do know for sure, is the way they reacted to the virus told me they knew something we didn't know. And it wasn't as dangerous as we were led to believe. Actually the W.H.O shrugged it off at first. So did the Chief Public Health Minister of Canada.

Then it started to get hyped. They did absolutely nothing to protect the elderly in old age homes, the ones most vulnerable. They still allowed "essential"(AKA for the rich) flights from all over the world. Including Wuhan China. Global leaders were caught partying it up while they tried to hold us under house arrest. 70% of to big to fail coporations still operating. How long has this virus been around, and when did they mandate masks that they say work? You'd think the cases would have skyrocketted prior to the mask mandate but it didn't.....

I caught these "health experts" lying way too many times to believe a single word they say.

I still couldnt figure out the origin . I knew it was a man made virus. I just didn't know if it was released by accident(prematurally) or on purpose.

I noticed that 8 of the 10 leaders that first contracted Covid were some how connected to Britain......Coincidence? Maybe......

Now Liberal Britain was the first to come up with the covid vaccine. Hmmmmmmm And the first to come up with a new strain, more contagious version of the virus. Hmmmmmm. Good for business no? Those who were on the fence will now certainly get the vaccine right?

This is the fasted vaccine ever concocted. They have been working on the common flu vaccine for decades with very little success. All of a sudden after less then a year, you want me to believe they found a cure so quickly. It either is garbage or they had the cure all along,

I found it strange when i found out there are labs that creat Viruses, patent them and then sell them to big pharma??? Thats VERY disturbing. And that is why a capitalist/profit driven health care is dangerous folks.....

Now apparently, they are saying the vaccine has no "virus" in it, and that it attacks the virus protein, another stating it has Canadian nano-technology in it. All I know is that I wont be taking the vaccine, And if they force people to, it is a declaration of war on the people.

The nurse I posted who took the vaccine and fainted, end up dying. When we posted the video on facebook, it was censored saying that just because that happened doesnt mean the vaccine isnt safe. WOW!! ALL the elites are in on this hoax!

Now WHO is saying you still have to quaranteen after you take the vaccine?LOL

And finally??? Almost every single symptom of every single infection is listed for covid.lol

Apparently the idiots from Bachlorette stated that the worst symptom they had was loss of taste and smell. Guess what. My best friend had that problem almost a year beofre covid and she had it for months. Was it covid? And I DID NOT contract whatever it was. I say its all baloney
 

TeabagSalad

Active member
Wow...you should learn how to check your sources. Very little of what you said is true, most of it seems to be nonsense conspiracy-theories.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
I've been taking a break from Politics due to my health. When I first heard of Covid, I started digging again, and what I found was concerning.....

i have pages and pages of documents I can share, but lets go with the latest news.

I was trying to track down the origin. When it first came out, they said it came out of a Wuhan Lab. Then it was the wet markets, someone ate a bat, then I read some Jewish proffessor at Harvard was selling US bio chemicals to the Wuhan University(and went to jail for it). Then I heard Obama was financing virus research at the Wuhan lab....

What I do know for sure, is the way they reacted to the virus told me they knew something we didn't know. And it wasn't as dangerous as we were led to believe. Actually the W.H.O shrugged it off at first. So did the Chief Public Health Minister of Canada.

Then it started to get hyped. They did absolutely nothing to protect the elderly in old age homes, the ones most vulnerable. They still allowed "essential"(AKA for the rich) flights from all over the world. Including Wuhan China. Global leaders were caught partying it up while they tried to hold us under house arrest. 70% of to big to fail coporations still operating. How long has this virus been around, and when did they mandate masks that they say work? You'd think the cases would have skyrocketted prior to the mask mandate but it didn't.....

I caught these "health experts" lying way too many times to believe a single word they say.

I still couldnt figure out the origin . I knew it was a man made virus. I just didn't know if it was released by accident(prematurally) or on purpose.

I noticed that 8 of the 10 leaders that first contracted Covid were some how connected to Britain......Coincidence? Maybe......

Now Liberal Britain was the first to come up with the covid vaccine. Hmmmmmmm And the first to come up with a new strain, more contagious version of the virus. Hmmmmmm. Good for business no? Those who were on the fence will now certainly get the vaccine right?

This is the fasted vaccine ever concocted. They have been working on the common flu vaccine for decades with very little success. All of a sudden after less then a year, you want me to believe they found a cure so quickly. It either is garbage or they had the cure all along,

I found it strange when i found out there are labs that creat Viruses, patent them and then sell them to big pharma??? Thats VERY disturbing. And that is why a capitalist/profit driven health care is dangerous folks.....

Now apparently, they are saying the vaccine has no "virus" in it, and that it attacks the virus protein, another stating it has Canadian nano-technology in it. All I know is that I wont be taking the vaccine, And if they force people to, it is a declaration of war on the people.

The nurse I posted who took the vaccine and fainted, end up dying. When we posted the video on facebook, it was censored saying that just because that happened doesnt mean the vaccine isnt safe. WOW!! ALL the elites are in on this hoax!

Now WHO is saying you still have to quaranteen after you take the vaccine?LOL

And finally??? Almost every single symptom of every single infection is listed for covid.lol

Apparently the idiots from Bachlorette stated that the worst symptom they had was loss of taste and smell. Guess what. My best friend had that problem almost a year beofre covid and she had it for months. Was it covid? And I DID NOT contract whatever it was. I say its all baloney
When early in your post is that you "knew it was a man made virus" it taints everything else you say and makes you look like a conspiracy theorist, because you do not know that at all.
 
When early in your post is that you "knew it was a man made virus" it taints everything else you say and makes you look like a conspiracy theorist, because you do not know that at all.
Yes I do. It seems that these viruses were "recombined" in a lab. The odds that 2 animals that were infected with a different desease, met, and they combined deseases to make a super desease is baloney. If deseases worked like that, life would have been wiped out long ago.

Also the author of the Bio terrorism act publically stated this virus was "weaponized" yes I know you'll probably call him a quack, but his crudentials are undeniable and he has been consulting world leaders on Bio chemicals for decades.

MERS, SARS and Covid 19 all recombined.

Wasn't SARS way more dangerous and was supposed to kill all these people if a vaccine wasn't found, yet went out with a wimper?
 

vibise

Active member
Yes I do. It seems that these viruses were "recombined" in a lab. The odds that 2 animals that were infected with a different desease, met, and they combined deseases to make a super desease is baloney. If deseases worked like that, life would have been wiped out long ago.

Also the author of the Bio terrorism act publically stated this virus was "weaponized" yes I know you'll probably call him a quack, but his crudentials are undeniable and he has been consulting world leaders on Bio chemicals for decades.

MERS, SARS and Covid 19 all recombined.

Wasn't SARS way more dangerous and was supposed to kill all these people if a vaccine wasn't found, yet went out with a wimper?
Actually, naturally occurring viral recombinants occur all the time. Retroviruses, for example recombine with each other routinely as two genomes are encapsulated in the virus and once they are introduced into a cell, the polymerase enzyme jumps back and forth between them
to produce a recombinant.

Artificially recombinant molecular clones can certainly be produced in a lab, but there is no evidence this was done to create this virus. And seriously, why would a Chinese lab create a deadly virus and then release it in their own country?
 

TeabagSalad

Active member
Name what source you want me to provide and I will. Why is very little of what I said not true? Because YOU say so?lol

Here is a longer response to most of your OP:

I was trying to track down the origin. When it first came out, they said it came out of a Wuhan Lab. Then it was the wet markets, someone ate a bat, then I read some Jewish proffessor at Harvard was selling US bio chemicals to the Wuhan University(and went to jail for it).
It took me about 10 seconds on Google to find the professor you are talking about: Dr Charles Lieber. First, he wasn’t arrested for anything in connection with COVID-19, he was arrested for failing to declare (or making false statements about) the level of his involvement with a Chinese talent recruitment programme called “Thousand Talents Plan”.
It should also be noted that Dr Lieber’s area of expertise has nothing to do with viruses, he is a chemist specialising in nano technology.
I caught these "health experts" lying way too many times to believe a single word they say.
Really? And, of course you can give us plenty examples of these lies. Please try to remember that at the beginning of the pandemic we knew comparatively little about the virus, relative to now. So, statements made then, may have turned out to be wrong now, but at the time would have been thought to be correct.
There have been a few examples of people making incorrect statements about the virus for political reasons, but they have been found out fairly quickly and have been forced to run away with their tails between their legs.

I still couldnt figure out the origin . I knew it was a man made virus. I just didn't know if it was released by accident(prematurally) or on purpose.
The virus is very obviously not man made. Its genome has been shared between thousands of groups of scientists all around the world and not a single one of them has spotted any of the traits you would find in a manufactured virus. This is nothing more than conspiracy theory.

Now Liberal Britain was the first to come up with the covid vaccine. Hmmmmmmm And the first to come up with a new strain, more contagious version of the virus. Hmmmmmm. Good for business no? Those who were on the fence will now certainly get the vaccine right?
The Pfizer vaccine was developed by a multi-national company, not by Great Britain – they were just the first to approve the use of the vaccine. A second vaccine developed in Oxford (which could be considered British) has just been approved in the last 24 hours.
To the contrary of you assertion a new strain is a worry for the producers of the vaccine, because the new strain of the virus may be immune to the vaccine. Fortunately it seems that the vaccine is still effective against this new strain, but nothing formal has been published yet.


This is the fasted vaccine ever concocted. They have been working on the common flu vaccine for decades with very little success. All of a sudden after less then a year, you want me to believe they found a cure so quickly. It either is garbage or they had the cure all along,
There are significant differences between finding a vaccine (not a cure) for a single virus which mutates relatively slowly, and finding a vaccine for a group of viruses that mutate relatively quickly. You should also note that there are one or more flu vaccines that are made available each year. We’re getting better at vaccinating for flu, the main block isn’t really the development of vaccines but the logistics of vaccinating millions of people.

I found it strange when i found out there are labs that creat Viruses, patent them and then sell them to big pharma??? Thats VERY disturbing. And that is why a capitalist/profit driven health care is dangerous folks.....
Which is why most countries, outside of the US have single payer healthcare systems – it removes a lot of the capitalist drive for profit and makes healthcare significantly cheaper.

Now apparently, they are saying the vaccine has no "virus" in it, and that it attacks the virus protein, another stating it has Canadian nano-technology in it. All I know is that I wont be taking the vaccine, And if they force people to, it is a declaration of war on the people.
People tend to fear what they don’t understand.

The nurse I posted who took the vaccine and fainted, end up dying. When we posted the video on facebook, it was censored saying that just because that happened doesnt mean the vaccine isnt safe. WOW!! ALL the elites are in on this hoax!
The reason why the video was censored is because it is promoting a dangerous lie. The nurse, Tiffany Dover, who fainted after receiving the vaccine did not die. She is alive and well. This took about a minute to fact check.

Now WHO is saying you still have to quaranteen after you take the vaccine?LOL
This is sensible, all you have to do is think about it for a moment. No vaccine is perfect, there is always going to be a few people for whom it doesn’t work. Testing showed the Pfizer vaccine works on about 90% of people. This means that there is 1 in 10 people that will not gain an immunity from the vaccine. These people can still spread the virus, so because the vaccines are still being rolled out the virus can still be spread to the larger un-immune population.

And finally??? Almost every single symptom of every single infection is listed for covid.lol

Apparently the idiots from Bachlorette stated that the worst symptom they had was loss of taste and smell. Guess what. My best friend had that problem almost a year beofre covid and she had it for months. Was it covid? And I DID NOT contract whatever it was. I say its all baloney
There are plenty of things that can cause a loss of smell or taste, and given COVID hadn’t spread to humans at that point I think we can safely say that it was something else that caused your friend’s problem.
 

DeSanto

Active member
Covid Update: From the newly declared...

President-Elect DeSanto

Asymptotic spreading is no longer a thing. Healthy people can take off their masks and go see their loved ones again.

You’re welcome 😊
 

Harry Leggs

Active member
Really? And, of course you can give us plenty examples of these lies.
We can start with the 2.2 million death prediction (imperial report) if we did nothing which shut down the whole economy including the schools. The last day of school was 3/13/20 until early Sept and then only partial openings in my state. Closing down the whole country and then the world except perhaps Sweden which trashed Imperial, unlike Faucci and Birx who took it seriously even if it was not peer-reviewed and the guy (Neil Ferguson?) had a lousy track record. They also overexaggerated the death stats from C-19 which have been falsified by comparisons with previous years death stats. They had it down as the third leading cause of death in 2020 but the overall death stats do not show an overall increase in deaths for 2020 to match their fear-mongering assertions. So there is two examples. I could come up with more but all this would bounce off your head.
Please try to remember that at the beginning of the pandemic we knew comparatively little about the virus, relative to now.
We knew enough about corona in general and we knew about the historical handling of problems like these. Shutting down the whole country was not what happened prior with AIDS, 2009 H1N1 etc.
So, statements made then, may have turned out to be wrong now, but at the time would have been thought to be correct.
They screwed the pooch and over-reacted and then attempted to fudge the numbers to cover for their blunders.

The virus is very obviously not man made.
It is either engineered or natural. If there is anything involving lab experiments then it is engineered and there is plenty of circumstantial to ignore to dismiss human intervention. Like the location of the outbreak and the location of the labs in Wuhan. These facts should raise red flags.
Its genome has been shared between thousands of groups of scientists all around the world and not a single one of them has spotted any of the traits you would find in a manufactured virus. This is nothing more than conspiracy theory.
If they suspect lab origins they are not going to put their careers on the line to say so. Besides all the money is in the natural origins scenario. Any of the dissenting group would face powerful opposition. The process here is not clear as the driven snow as you would have us believe. Lab origins or human intervention is still on the table. What we have today is politically charged and agitprop (agitation propaganda used to influence and mobilize public opinion) whereas there is no valid debate of the two models but one side shuts down and punishes the other all amplified by the media. The natural origins camp does not wish to debate, they only want submission and will punish all dissenters and the media will ignore, dismiss or censor like they did with these two guys from CA.


 
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Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
Yes I do.
No, you don't, as you demonstrate in your next sentence.
It seems that these viruses were "recombined" in a lab.
"Seems that"...is not knowledge.
The odds that 2 animals that were infected with a different desease, met, and they combined deseases to make a super desease is baloney. If deseases worked like that, life would have been wiped out long ago.
Support all of this unless you are claiming to be an expert in disease.
Also the author of the Bio terrorism act publically stated this virus was "weaponized" yes I know you'll probably call him a quack, but his crudentials are undeniable and he has been consulting world leaders on Bio chemicals for decades.
Doesn't matter what he stated unless he has support for it. Does he?

And weaponizing a virus does not mean it was man-made. Humans have been weaponizing diseases for at least centuries.
MERS, SARS and Covid 19 all recombined.

Wasn't SARS way more dangerous and was supposed to kill all these people if a vaccine wasn't found, yet went out with a wimper?
No. Not that I heard.
 
Actually, naturally occurring viral recombinants occur all the time. Retroviruses, for example recombine with each other routinely as two genomes are encapsulated in the virus and once they are introduced into a cell, the polymerase enzyme jumps back and forth between them
to produce a recombinant.

Artificially recombinant molecular clones can certainly be produced in a lab, but there is no evidence this was done to create this virus. And seriously, why would a Chinese lab create a deadly virus and then release it in their own country?
Really? Name a naturally occuring viral combinant.

Of course you can artificially recombine viruses. How do you think they make these viruses they patent?

Why would a Chinese lab(or any lab) create a deadly virus? ummmm Population control or to quell a large uprising?

There was a rather large uprising in Wuhan" Incinerator plan sparks mass unrest" in Wuhan

There were many other uprisings in 2019 world wide. Yellow Jackets - France, indonesia, Bolivia, Greece, Iran, Latin America......

All anti-government......
 
It took me about 10 seconds on Google to find the professor you are talking about: Dr Charles Lieber. First, he wasn’t arrested for anything in connection with COVID-19, he was arrested for failing to declare (or making false statements about) the level of his involvement with a Chinese talent recruitment programme called “Thousand Talents Plan”.
It should also be noted that Dr Lieber’s area of expertise has nothing to do with viruses, he is a chemist specialising in nano technology.

They were caught smuggling bio-chemicals, who knows what elese they smuggled before they were caught. And where did they smuggle it to? The Wuhan University where the Wuhan lab is. Coincidence? I doubt it.
Really? And, of course you can give us plenty examples of these lies. Please try to remember that at the beginning of the pandemic we knew comparatively little about the virus, relative to now. So, statements made then, may have turned out to be wrong now, but at the time would have been thought to be correct.
There have been a few examples of people making incorrect statements about the virus for political reasons, but they have been found out fairly quickly and have been forced to run away with their tails between their legs.

Masks work, masks dont work

Its nothing to be alarmed about, Millions will die.

Its super contagious, its not that contagios.

Hospitals are full, hospitals were empty.( some went as far as to pass Italian hospital footage as American hospital footage). Where Italy's elderly have been dying in droves over the last decade from Flu epidemics(some say to kill off pensioners that were putting a strain on the economy)

The virus derived from a bat(lie)

People that died of covid had much more severe underlying conditions which weren't mentioned.

Im sure there were much more. These are just at the top of my head.

I knew they were up to no good when they ALL started talking about the "New Normal", This plandemic was planned from the beginning to linger...



The virus is very obviously not man made. Its genome has been shared between thousands of groups of scientists all around the world and not a single one of them has spotted any of the traits you would find in a manufactured virus. This is nothing more than conspiracy theory.
Really? Here i one and I'm sure there are more, but the elites have ways of silencing people.....

Nobel winning scientist claims COVID-19 virus was man made in Wuhan lab: Report​





The Pfizer vaccine was developed by a multi-national company, not by Great Britain – they were just the first to approve the use of the vaccine. A second vaccine developed in Oxford (which could be considered British) has just been approved in the last 24 hours.
To the contrary of you assertion a new strain is a worry for the producers of the vaccine, because the new strain of the virus may be immune to the vaccine. Fortunately it seems that the vaccine is still effective against this new strain, but nothing formal has been published yet.

Its good for business! So lets see, Prince Charles, Justin Trudeau, Doug Ford's wife, Boris Johnson, and much more early brits comnnected to the crown.....



There are significant differences between finding a vaccine (not a cure) for a single virus which mutates relatively slowly, and finding a vaccine for a group of viruses that mutate relatively quickly. You should also note that there are one or more flu vaccines that are made available each year. We’re getting better at vaccinating for flu, the main block isn’t really the development of vaccines but the logistics of vaccinating millions of people.
Oh please. These Flu vaccines have hardly worked. I get the flu(or cold) once every 2 years and I dont take ANY vaccine.

Which is why most countries, outside of the US have single payer healthcare systems – it removes a lot of the capitalist drive for profit and makes healthcare significantly cheaper.

Cheaper yes but not cheap. There is a big difference.


People tend to fear what they don’t understand.

People tend to fear what they have been indoctrinated to fear.lol

The reason why the video was censored is because it is promoting a dangerous lie. The nurse, Tiffany Dover, who fainted after receiving the vaccine did not die. She is alive and well. This took about a minute to fact check.
The video said NOTHING of her dying. It just showed the video, which the video was flagged as misinformation stating that basically just because she fainted it doesnt mean the vaccine is not safe. Oh and they she regularly faints after needles?LOL I wonder how much she got paid to say that! So they picked a woman who faints from needles as an axample? Are they that stupid???

Its only to fool the naive. Hint Hint.lol


This is sensible, all you have to do is think about it for a moment. No vaccine is perfect, there is always going to be a few people for whom it doesn’t work. Testing showed the Pfizer vaccine works on about 90% of people. This means that there is 1 in 10 people that will not gain an immunity from the vaccine. These people can still spread the virus, so because the vaccines are still being rolled out the virus can still be spread to the larger un-immune population.
Actually they say 52% after first dose and 95% after second dose. The odds of a vaccine being so effective after less than a year, tells me that they already had the cure. Its been 80+ years and the flu vaccine is only what? 40% effective?lol

And the common Cold which is a corona Virus has yet to have a cure. Or maybe they spread the cold virus every year and then give people medicine that doesnt cure it but treats it. It would be a good racket.



There are plenty of things that can cause a loss of smell or taste, and given COVID hadn’t spread to humans at that point I think we can safely say that it was something else that caused your friend’s problem.

Exactly. Every single symptom known to man is exhibited by covid but the majority are A sympotmatic. How convienient, when you want to exagerate the numbers. I call baloney.

Bottom line, this covid is no deadlier than the common Flu and is being hyped for profit and to serve an agenda. The destruction of small businesses, and people's savings.

People die ever year of flu and respiratory illnesses, and never has the entire globe been shut down. Get ready for the New World Order.
 

Harry Leggs

Active member
Because a lot of the claims he made are obviously false, you just need to apply a little common sense.

Or do you lack the common sense to spot obviously false statements?
COVID-19 Vaccines & Fetal Cell LinesSomeof the COVID-19 vaccines being studied in clinical trials use cells originally isolated from fetal tissue (often referred to as fetal cells) in various stages of vaccine development and manufacturing. Historical fetal cell lines were derived in the 1960’s and 1970’s from two elective abortions that were not performed for the purpose of vaccine development. Fetal cell lines were used to create vaccines for diseases such as hepatitis A, rubella, and rabies. The fetal cells lines being used to produce some of the potential COVID-19 vaccines are from two sources:●HEK-293: A kidney cell line that was isolated from a terminated fetus in 1972●PER.C6: A retinal cell line that was isolated from a terminated fetus in 198
COVID-19 Vaccine Fetal Cell Handout.pdf

So what else they got in there? What bout mixed with mouse parts, or bovine? How bout pigs?

Just be a good boy and go out there and get that shot and don't worry about any long term affects.
 

Whateverman

Well-known member
People eat terminated fetuses all the time, and we're supposed to be worried that a shot contains a microscopic portion? Gimme a break...
 

Harry Leggs

Active member
Wow...you should learn how to check your sources. Very little of what you said is true, most of it seems to be nonsense conspiracy-theories.
It is different models, not a conspiracy. They debate the models and your side does not wish to debate, but shut down.

You going to take that shot without knowing what is in it? How it was made? Did they use mouse parts, animal parts, human fetuses and none of that really bothers you or perhaps you prefer ignorance to knowledge on this.

Lets say you did get sick from some animal virus transmitted to humans and it takes a few years for something to trigger the animal virus hiding in your body. They are not going to take responsibility and nobody will help you because not many know what they are doing. They will say they do not know how animal viruses make it into humans and ignore the fact it could be thru vaccines since they use animals in concocting the liquid shot directly into your arm. Origin source, aborted fetuses, monkey kidney cells, guinea pig cells, bovine serum.

They have no idea of the long term consequences, and will not take responsibility, of injecting this into the bloodstream of adults and children.
 
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