Dare To Watch, Ukraine Weapons Biolabs, Funded By The Biden Admin (Fox) Tucker Carlson

Truth7t7

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In the attached 10 Min Clip (Fox) Tucker Carlson exposes the Ukranian Biolab, and the Biden Admins funding and ties in secrecy?

Biden Secretary Of State Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) was recently asked by Florida Senator (Marco Rubio) Mar 8, 2022 in congressional testimony, if Ukraine had biolabs and the answer was "Yes", and she stated she feared they could fall into Russian hands

The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.
 
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Bonnie

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Well, for the other side of the story, also from Fox, is this;


Tucker Carlson led his Wednesday night show by saying “If you had told us just 4 days ago that the Biden administration was funding secret bio-labs in Ukraine of all places, we would not have believed you. ‘Yeah, I don’t think we’re gonna put that on TV. No thanks.’ Then if you told us that not only did the administration fund these secret bio-labs in Ukraine, but that they then failed to secure the deadly contents of those labs before the Russian invasion — an invasion they knew was coming, an invasion they helped encourage. If you would’ve told us that 2 days ago, we would have dismissed you as a nut. It was just too preposterous.”

The Fox host continued to mocked fact-checks on the bio-lab story before eventually admitting “maybe it is” Russian disinformation.

While Griffin did not mention Carlson by name, she noted on Hannity that the Defense Department has been working with the Ukrainian government and others since 2005 to safely reconfigure former Soviet labs.

This is just to show there are two sides to every story. Sometimes more. :)
 

Thistle

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Well, for the other side of the story, also from Fox, is this;




This is just to show there are two sides to every story. Sometimes more. :)
I'm not sure I see a contradiction there. What would keep you from describing a bio weapons laboratory as "safely reconfigured?"
 

vibise

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In the attached 10 Min Clip (Fox) Tucker Carlson exposes the Ukranian Biolab, and the Biden Admins funding and ties in secrecy?

Biden Secretary Of State Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) was recently asked by Florida Senator (Marco Rubio) Mar 8, 2022 in congressional testimony, if Ukraine had biolabs and the answer was "Yes", and she stated she feared they could fall into Russian hands

The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.
I would like to see a full quote from Robert Pope, instead of 3 words.

Research on pathogens is what scientists do. There is nothing nefarious in that, and in fact, without such research, how could we develop treatments?
 

System

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In the attached 10 Min Clip (Fox) Tucker Carlson exposes the Ukranian Biolab, and the Biden Admins funding and ties in secrecy?

Biden Secretary Of State Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) was recently asked by Florida Senator (Marco Rubio) Mar 8, 2022 in congressional testimony, if Ukraine had biolabs and the answer was "Yes", and she stated she feared they could fall into Russian hands

The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.
Personally I believe the US has bioweapons labs in Ukraine.
1. Neuland recently admitted the US had biolabs in Ukraine that she was worried about the Russians capturing.
2. There are articles from 2010 reporting the biolabs in Ukraine. The labs are for countering terrorist bioweapons.

Link:

https://web.archive.org/web/2011052...watch.com/news/213421-biolab-opens-in-ukraine

3. In order to study how to defeat a bioweapon, wouldn't it make sense to actually have samples of the weapon being studied? So, they have the bioweapons in the labs.

I believe the OP is wrong though, Biden probably had nothing to do with it. It started with Bush then Obama.
 

Truth7t7

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Well, for the other side of the story, also from Fox, is this;




This is just to show there are two sides to every story. Sometimes more. :)
Your response doesn't nullify the facts what Tucker Carlson revealed, his response is hard to believe and 100% truth

Tucker Carlson is going against the MSM flow, there's $$$ involved in viewership and advertising

Did Biden Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) make the statements and claims Tucker Carlson reported on, 100% Yes

Did Department Of Defense (Robert Pope) make the statements Tucker Carlson reported on, 100% Yes

Jennifer Griffin has shown nothing to support any claims to the contrary "None"!
 
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Truth7t7

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I would like to see a full quote from Robert Pope, instead of 3 words.

Research on pathogens is what scientists do. There is nothing nefarious in that, and in fact, without such research, how could we develop treatments?
The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
Your response doesn't nullify the facts what Tucker Carlson revealed, his response is hard to believe and 100% truth

Who says they are facts?
Tucker Carlson is going against the MSM flow, there's $$$ involved in viewership and advertising

Tucker Carlson's show is an opinion show--his opinion--and not necessarily factual, as even FOX has admitted.
Did Biden Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) make the statements and claims Tucker Carlson reported on, 100% Yes

Did Department Of Defense (Robert Pope) make the statements Tucker Carlson reported on, 100% Yes

Jennifer Griffin has shown nothing to support any claims to the contrary "None"!
As Dr. Phil has often stated on his show: "No matter how thin you make a pancake, it still has two sides." Here is more from the "other side" of the "pancake" and this from AP news, which is an independently owned news-gathering agency:


Post no. 13.
 

vibise

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The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.
You have still not provided more than 3 words as a direct quote.
And my point still stands. It is not possible to counter bioweapons without having them in the lab for study.
 

Truth7t7

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Who says they are facts?


Tucker Carlson's show is an opinion show--his opinion--and not necessarily factual, as even FOX has admitted.

As Dr. Phil has often stated on his show: "No matter how thin you make a pancake, it still has two sides." Here is more from the "other side" of the "pancake" and this from AP news, which is an independently owned news-gathering agency:


Post no. 13.
It's a fact that DOD (Robert Pope) stated the US was involved with funding and participation in biological weapons research with Ukraine, just as Tucker Carlson quoted
 

Truth7t7

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You have still not provided more than 3 words as a direct quote.
And my point still stands. It is not possible to counter bioweapons without having them in the lab for study.
February 25, 2022 the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists published an article quoting Robert Pope of the DTRA's Cooperative Threat Reduction Program

Direct Quotes, Robert Pope:

“I would say from every facility that we have worked with them in, we have confidence that as long as the electrical power is turned on and the people we have trained are present at the facility, the biosafety officers, that these pathogens are safe and secure to international standards,”
Pope said. “Should these facilities be damaged by conflict, that could change.”

The pathogens with which the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program labs work are generally kept frozen, so they can’t replicate and become infectious. The risk the pathogens pose would increase if a building lost power and suffered damage. “If you lose the electrical power, the pathogens in the freezers warm up,” he said. “If the ventilation system is damaged, or the building itself is damaged, and these now ambient-temperature pathogens are able to escape the facility, then they can be potentially infectious in the region around the facility.”
 
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vibise

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February 25, 2022 the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists published an article quoting Robert Pope of the DTRA's Cooperative Threat Reduction Program

Direct Quotes, Robert Pope:

“I would say from every facility that we have worked with them in, we have confidence that as long as the electrical power is turned on and the people we have trained are present at the facility, the biosafety officers, that these pathogens are safe and secure to international standards,”
Pope said. “Should these facilities be damaged by conflict, that could change.”

The pathogens with which the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program labs work are generally kept frozen, so they can’t replicate and become infectious. The risk the pathogens pose would increase if a building lost power and suffered damage. “If you lose the electrical power, the pathogens in the freezers warm up,” he said. “If the ventilation system is damaged, or the building itself is damaged, and these now ambient-temperature pathogens are able to escape the facility, then they can be potentially infectious in the region around the facility.”
So the thing that is concerning is that if electrical power is lost and the freezers warm up, those pathogens could pose a problem.
However, such pathogens are stored in sealed plastic or glass vials, and should not escape unless the freezers were opened and the vials were broken.

I also think that these research labs date back to the GWB administration.
 

Truth7t7

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So the thing that is concerning is that if electrical power is lost and the freezers warm up, those pathogens could pose a problem.
However, such pathogens are stored in sealed plastic or glass vials, and should not escape unless the freezers were opened and the vials were broken.

I also think that these research labs date back to the GWB administration.
Willful Disregard, as the quote of (Robert Pope) clearly states "If The Building Itself Is Damaged"

Yes the Biden Admin is currently overseeing the DOD that employs (Robert Pope) that has been working jointly with Ukraine in these biolabs

Yes under secretary in the Biden Admin (Victoria Neuland) and DOD (Robert Pope) have expressed great concern on these biological pathogens in these labs being released

Yes a major biological threat, that the Biden Admin has allowed to happen
 

wiseones2cents

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What kind of source is that?
If you actually watched the video, you wouldn't be asking that question, since it mentions sources. Like Victoria Nuland. Your a lazy debater.

 

Truth7t7

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If you actually watched the video, you wouldn't be asking that question, since it mentions sources. Like Victoria Nuland. Your a lazy debater.

More like driven by a fake news agenda, in preconceived prejudice to see clear and plain truth
 

vibise

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Willful Disregard, as the quote of (Robert Pope) clearly states "If The Building Itself Is Damaged"

Yes the Biden Admin is currently overseeing the DOD that employs (Robert Pope) that has been working jointly with Ukraine in these biolabs

Yes under secretary in the Biden Admin (Victoria Neuland) and DOD (Robert Pope) have expressed great concern on these biological pathogens in these labs being released

Yes a major biological threat, that the Biden Admin has allowed to happen
When were those biolabs set up?
The GWB administration.
Why are you blaming Biden?

The Ukrainian and U.S. governments partnered in August 2005 to "prevent the proliferation of dangerous pathogens and related expertise and to minimize potential biological threats," according to the treaty.
If you actually watched the video, you wouldn't be asking that question, since it mentions sources. Like Victoria Nuland. Your a lazy debater.

Yes, there are biological research facilities in Ukraine, and all such research facilities work with various microbes. While many of these may not be human pathogens, others, like African swine fever, can affect livestock and have an indirect effect on human well-being. Other infectious agents under study in these labs are human pathogens, but that does not support the claim that the work is being done to create bioweapons.


The claim that Ukraine is running a bioweapons program has been debunked and given 4 Pinocchios, but this Russian propaganda is being amplified by American Russian apologists like Tucker Carlson and Don Jr.
 

Truth7t7

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When were those biolabs set up?
The GWB administration.
Why are you blaming Biden?



Yes, there are biological research facilities in Ukraine, and all such research facilities work with various microbes. While many of these may not be human pathogens, others, like African swine fever, can affect livestock and have an indirect effect on human well-being. Other infectious agents under study in these labs are human pathogens, but that does not support the claim that the work is being done to create bioweapons.


The claim that Ukraine is running a bioweapons program has been debunked and given 4 Pinocchios, but this Russian propaganda is being amplified by American Russian apologists like Tucker Carlson and Don Jr.
Your living in a vacuum of denial, you have been clearly shown "several times", there are "Dangerous" pathogens as explained by Biden's Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) and DOD (Robert Pope)

Tucker Carlsons reporting was truthful and spot on, you can't erase the comments of the aforementioned that Tucker used for his reporting
 

Gondwanaland

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In the attached 10 Min Clip (Fox) Tucker Carlson exposes the Ukranian Biolab, and the Biden Admins funding and ties in secrecy?

Biden Secretary Of State Under Secretary (Victoria Neuland) was recently asked by Florida Senator (Marco Rubio) Mar 8, 2022 in congressional testimony, if Ukraine had biolabs and the answer was "Yes", and she stated she feared they could fall into Russian hands

The day after Russia invaded Ukraine, Robert Pope, the man who heads the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program at DOD, sat for an interview with the website Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Pope was the man in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject, maybe more than anyone else, but it turns out that not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured

In other words, because as Pope put it, "scientists are scientists," they don't want to destroy all the bioweapons. Instead, they're using them to conduct new bioweapons research. That's what he said and not just on strains left over from the Soviet Union. The second lie. In fact, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv has acknowledged joint American and Ukrainian research on other pathogens such as hemorrhagic fever virus.
biolabs =/= 'weapons biolabs'. Nice fail.

What Ukraine has is what most every country, even backwater and wartorn African countries, or disasters of countries like Haiti, have - BSL 3 labs. No bioweapons involved or in evidence.

Oh, and the US 'funding' is nothing more than the US agreeing to help Ukraine upgrade and modernize their facilities.
 
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