Gondwanaland
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Sounds like Russia should stop its wanton and indiscriminant bombing and war crimes then, lest any building with bioresearch gets damaged, then, huh?
See above.
Dare To Watch, Ukraine Weapons Biolabs, Funded By The Biden Admin (Fox) Tucker Carlson
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Truth7t7
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February 25, 2022 the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists published an article quoting Robert Pope of the DTRA's Cooperative Threat Reduction Program
Direct Quotes, Robert Pope:
“I would say from every facility that we have worked with them in, we have confidence that as long as the electrical power is turned on and the people we have trained are present at the facility, the biosafety officers, that these pathogens are safe and secure to international standards,” Pope said. “Should these facilities be damaged by conflict, that could change.”
The pathogens with which the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program labs work are generally kept frozen, so they can’t replicate and become infectious. The risk the pathogens pose would increase if a building lost power and suffered damage. “If you lose the electrical power, the pathogens in the freezers warm up,” he said. “If the ventilation system is damaged, or the building itself is damaged, and these now ambient-temperature pathogens are able to escape the facility, then they can be potentially infectious in the region around the facility.”
wiseones2cents
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Debunked by whom? Western propagandist?lol I give 100 Pinocchios to MSM.When were those biolabs set up?
The GWB administration.
Why are you blaming Biden?
Fact check: False claim of US biolabs in Ukraine tied to Russian disinformation campaign
The Security Service of Ukraine and the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine said the claim is false.www.usatoday.com
Yes, there are biological research facilities in Ukraine, and all such research facilities work with various microbes. While many of these may not be human pathogens, others, like African swine fever, can affect livestock and have an indirect effect on human well-being. Other infectious agents under study in these labs are human pathogens, but that does not support the claim that the work is being done to create bioweapons.
The claim that Ukraine is running a bioweapons program has been debunked and given 4 Pinocchios, but this Russian propaganda is being amplified by American Russian apologists like Tucker Carlson and Don Jr.
How is truth, considered propaganda? This is all speculation since you dont know what was in those labs. Bottom line is America lied and said there were no biolabs in Ukraine. And THAT was debunked by Nuland.
Its clear what ever it is, they didnt want it falling into "Russian hands".
Truth7t7
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I Agree 100%
Of course the biolabs contain "Dangerous" pathogens, just as (Neuland) and (Pope) stated
Of course America has been involved with research on these "Dangerous" pathogens
Of course Tucker Carlson has went against the MSM in "Exposing" the presented facts, relating to these facilities, and Americas involvement
The Western MSM gets 1,000 Pinocchio's, as the ignorant masses are under its spell, seeing only their smoke and mirrors in lying propaganda
Well, if the labs at Harvard are damaged by conflict, then the surrounding areas would be in trouble.
Any lab in the world, and most developed countries have them, would become a danger in wartime attacks.
So what are you saying? That Ukraine should not have had labs because maybe there would someday be an unprovoked attack? That could be said of any lab anywhere in the world.
The only danger from those labs is from wartime destruction that could cause freezer failures or breaches.
There is no reason that Ukrainian scientists could not do research on various pathogens as long as they adhere to standard safety protocols. None of those protocols can withstand direct bombing.
Truth7t7
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That's a brilliant response, as if a threat of imminent war never existed
Yes it has been a wartime scenario for several months in Ukraine
Yes (Robert Pope) working for Bidens DOD overseeing the Ukranian labs should have removed the "Dangerous" pathogens a month ago from Ukranian labs and soil
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Truth7t7
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One thing is a fact, Tucker Carlson is one of a few that isn't blinded by the western media propaganda
Editorial cartoon in today's AJC paper....
Bonnie
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One thing is fact--Tucker Carlson's show is an opinion show--HIS opinion, and opinions are not necessarily facts.
His opinion is often backed by facts. Maybe if you watched the show you would know this.
In a court of law, in a defamation case against Tucker, his own lawyers said no reasonable person would believe what Tucker says. Tucker was exonerated.
I also note that you say his opinions are "often" backed by facts. How often is that, and how do we know which of his opinions are fact-based and which are not?
Tucker was exonerated....as you try to defame him.....you people are too funny....Lol!
Context, context, context....
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In sum, the Fox News lawyers mocked the legal case made by McDougal's legal team. She alleged "a reasonable viewer of ordinary intelligence listening or watching the show ... would conclude that [she] is a criminal who extorted Trump for money" and that "the statements about [her] were fact."
"Context makes plain," Fox's lawyers wrote, "that the reasonable viewer would do no such thing."
I guess you missed where Maddow was also sued and her lawyers used that same line of defense as they did for Tucker....that her show was her 'opinions'...
You may want to do some research before you post. Lawyers are going to do and say whatever the have to in order to defend their clients.
When facts are presented, facts are presented. It's not hard to tell opinion from fact and it's not hard to see an 'opinion' backed by facts.
Since you don't watch his show, you might want to sit this one out.
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Truth7t7
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I Agree
Like the fact of Biden's political affairs under secretary (Victoria Nuland) and her testimony before Congress recently, regarding biolabs in Ukraine and their contents
Like the fact of Bidens DOD (Robert Pope) and his recent interview on the subject of biolabs in Ukraine, and US involvement, regarding "Dangerous" pathogens
They don't want to acknowledge truth, but desire to maintain the leftist agenda playbook, in a false narrative in propaganda
It's going to be a real eye opener in 6 months from now, regarding Zelenskyy and actions that actually took place in Ukraine, stay tuned!
Truth7t7
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Tucker Carlson's opinions are "Fact Based" as provided for in his reporting as seen in post #34 above
Your well aware of the facts presented in the OP clip, regarding (Victoria Nuland) and (Robert Pope)
You don't stand alone in denial of factual truth, in maintaining the Leftist agenda in propaganda
I thank God for reporters such as Tucker Carlson, A True American Patriot and Hero!
wiseones2cents
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The point is they denied having labs in Ukraine when they did have labs!
Truth7t7
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That's correct, then they tried to cover it up even further, with statements such as the labs are only used to study animal vaccine
As Tucker stated, this bio-research could be done anyplace in the world, why Ukraine?
Because they are using and developing the Soviet era pathogens,that's why
Virtually all western countries have labs doing bio-research, so why not Ukraine?
These labs study all sorts of pathogens and maintain various safety standard levels, which would be compromised by a direct hit by Russian bombs. This is the reason for concern.
There is no evidence Ukrainians are "using and developing the Soviet era pathogens"(sic). But there is clear evidence that Russians have been using those bioweapons in recent years, even to attack political opponents in other countries.
Bonnie
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Which is what I basically reported in post no. 2.
The Russians are trying hard to justify their invasion.Which is what I basically reported in post no. 2.
No one is buying their claim that Ukrainians have been committing genocide, or that Ukraine is controlled by Nazis, so they are trying out a claim of bioweapons labs.
The fact is that Russia is the country that has deployed such weapons against their political opponents in recent years, including some who were in other countries.
I think we should expect to see Russia using chemical weapons against Ukraine in the near future.