Day of the Lord

Keraz

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Joel 1:15 The day is near, the Day of the Lord: it comes as a mighty destruction from Almighty God.

Joel 2:1-5 Blow the trumpet in Israel, sound the alarm in Jerusalem. Let all who live in the Land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming – it is close at hand. A Day of darkness and clouds. Like [at] the dawn, an innumerable host comes across the land, such as never was and will never be again. A fire goes before them, leaving wasteland behind. With a great noise they leap mountains and consume everything to stubble.

Joel 2:6-11 At the sight of them, all the nations are in anguish. They march in line, none swerving against any defence. They rush upon cities and enter houses through the windows. The earth quakes and the sky is darkened. The Lord thunders at the head of His army, beyond number are those who obey His command. The Day of the Lord is great and dreadful, who can endure it?

Joel 1:6-12 & 19-20 this invading host destroys trees and crops. Fire has burnt the pastures and trees. All the streams have dried up.

The Day of the Lord, as described by Joel is not Armageddon, at the Return of Jesus or at the Great White Throne judgement. It is plainly an event before then, also prophesied in Isaiah 2:12-21, Revelation 6:12-17, Ezekiel 7:2-9: + over other 100 times.

Joel uses the metaphor of an army to describe how this destruction moves across the earth as it rotates- ‘with the dawn’. As nations turn to face the sun, the effects of a Coronal Mass Ejection- sunstrike will hit them. Initially, it will strike the earth as a light flash [Isaiah 30:26a] within 8 minutes, then the highly charged cosmic particles arrive about 24 hours later, causing immense destruction and deaths. Fires and volcanic eruptions will result in smoke and ash clouds, covering the sky. Isaiah 29:5-6, Psalms 18:7-15, Jeremiah 4:23-28

It will be an event ‘such has never been and will never be again; NOT caused by man.

Judah [the current State of Israel] will be badly affected- Hosea 8:14, Ezekiel 20:45-48, Isaiah 4:3-4, Zephaniah 1:1-18
And the Lord’s enemies: Isaiah 22:5-14, Psalms 83:1-18, Isaiah 63:1-6, Jeremiah 12:14

Deuteronomy 32:34-43 says how He will act when His enemies ‘foot will slip”. That is they make a mistake. That mistake will be their instigating an attack against Israel.


Malachi 4:1-3 Surely the day of the Lord is coming, it will burn like a furnace. All the evildoers will be as stubble, they will be burned up. They will be ashes under your feet. But for you, who revere My Name, righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. You will rejoice and prevail over the wicked on the Day that I act against them.

THEN the many prophecies that describe the migration of all true believers into the Promised Land will come to pass. This great exodus of His faithful Christian people will fulfil the promises that God made to the Patriarchs and they will, at last be a people that will be a ‘light to the nations’. They will prepare themselves and the world for the Return of Jesus. Ezekiel 35:11-30, Ezekiel 36:8-12, Deuteronomy 30:1-10, Zechariah 10:6-12, Isaiah 46:27-28, Ezekiel 39:25-29, Zephaniah 10:6-12

That Jesus is not yet present at this time, is clear from the many verses saying: ‘You will know that I am the Lord, when... And how it ‘will be as in the days of Egypt’.
Ezekiel 14:6-11, Ezekiel 39:22, Joel 2:27, Isaiah 41:20.
Reference: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged
 

Keraz

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Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath 1 is near, very near and coming quickly. Listen for the sound of that Day 2. When it comes, even the warriors will panic and be terrified.
That Day will be a day of great fury, a day of distress and torment, a day of destruction and devastation, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick blackness, a day of the shofar battle call against fortifications and upon all military strength 3.

Because the people have sinned against the Lord, He will bring a shocking disaster to all those who live in the holy Land. Their blood will be poured out like dust and their entrails like dung. Their strength and riches will not save them on the Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath, the whole Land will be burnt and devastated. For He will make an end, a horrible end of all who live in the holy Land 4.


Isaiah 13:9-13 Here comes the Day of the Lord’s wrath; a Day full of fury and the outpoured wrath of the Lord. The whole earth will be devastated 5 and the ungodly people will be destroyed.

On that Day, you will not have any light from the sun, the moon or the stars 6. The sky will tremble and shudder and the earth will be shaken from is place 7.
On that Day, humans will become scarce, they will be as rare as fine gold, after the Day of the Lord’s blazing anger 8.

Isaiah 24:1-13 Be warned, the Lord is about to strip the earth, ruin and devastate it. All the world’s inhabitants, without exception, will be severely affected 9. For the Lord has spoked this Word: The whole world is defiled by its peoples, they have changed the Laws, ignored the Statutes and broken the everlasting Covenant.

Therefore: My curse will consume the earth and its inhabitants will suffer punishment. They are burned up and very few are left 10. There will no longer be revelry and partying, the sounds of music and song will cease.

The cities and towns will be in chaos 11, every house locked and the people gone. They will be deserted, with all the roads and bridges destroyed. It will be like that throughout the world, in all the nations, just like an olive tree, beaten and stripped after the harvest.
Ref: NIV, KJV, CJB, REB. Some verses condensed.



1/ This Great Day is the Lord’s Judgement/Punishment of the nations. Habakkuk 3:12 Nothing like what is prophesied above has happen to the world since Noah’s Flood.

Now, as 2 Peter 3:7 says: The earth is reserved for burning…. We are told that God will bring out of His storehouse… Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-35, the sun: Isaiah 30:26, by a massive explosion, that will cause all the vividly described effects. It will affect every nation on earth, as it revolves; just for the daylight hours.

This worldwide disaster will be triggered by an attack onto Israel by her enemies. Haggai 2:6, Isaiah 63:1-6, Psalms 83:1-18, Romans 1:18, Revelation 6:12-17

2/ The great sound will be heard around the world. Jeremiah 25:30-31, Jeremiah 51:54-55, Isaiah 29:6, Joel 2:1

3/ All the kinds of military powers will be destroyed, especially the nuclear weapons neutralized. Jeremiah 49:35, Jeremiah 50:22-27, Hosea 2:18, Amos 5:9, Micah 5:10-11, Isaiah 32:14, Hosea 8:14

4/ All of the holy Land will be devastated and depopulated: Jeremiah 12:14, Jeremiah 10:18, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Ezekiel 21:1-7, Micah 1:6, Hosea 4:3, Isaiah 6:11-12

5/ The whole world will be severely affected: Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 66:15-16, Malachi 4:3, Nahum 1:5, Jeremiah 25:32

6/ There will be no natural light, caused by the electrically induced atmospheric changes and smoke from the fires and volcanoes. Isaiah 47:3, Amos 5:20, Joel 2:2, Jeremiah 4:23, Isaiah 34:4, Revelation 6:13…the sky rolled up like a scroll…..

7/ The earth will be pushed along its orbital track, bringing us back to a 360 day year. Isaiah 13:13, Haggai 2:21-22, Joel 2:10, Psalms 18:7

8/ Possibly up to 2/3 of the world’s population will die. Evil peoples will be destroyed. This Judgement by fire will be God’s second reset of human civilization and similar in magnitude to the Flood. Isaiah 26:21, Isaiah 51:6, Isaiah 30:30, Jeremiah 9:21-22, Ezekiel 21:21, Revelation 14:17-20

9/ Everybody alive then, will experience this terrible time, it will fall upon all and test the worth of each person. 1 Corinthians 3:13, Luke 21:35, John 17:15, Revelation 3:19, Psalms 118:17-18, 1 Peter 4:12

10/ The Middle East region will be the most affected by the direct hit of this CME, but many will die around the world from the resultant earthquakes, storms and tsunamis. Isaiah 33:10-13, Isaiah 63:1-6, Psalms 37:20, Amos 5:8, Nahum 1:8

11/ After this worldwide disaster that will destroy our modern infrastructure, to restore law and order, the survivors will establish a One World Government. There will be ten regions, each ruled by a President. Daniel 11:21-24, Revelation 17:12. But the new nation, in all of the holy Land, called Beulah, will not be a part of the OWG. Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 39:25-29, Ezekiel chapters 40-48, Zechariah 8:1-13



Isaiah 24:14-16 & 23 The Lord’s people lift their voices, they shout for joy. His righteous people in the West, in the East and on the islands of the sea: all giving honour to the God of Israel. From the ends of the earth, we hear them singing: Glory to God, our Saviour and Redeemer.

Zechariah 8:4-6 The Lord says: I am about to rescue My people and bring them back to live in the holy Land. Once again old men and women will sit in the streets of Jerusalem and the place will be full if children at play. Even if this seems impossible to those who remain in those days, will it be impossible for Me?

Revelation 7:9-10 I saw a vast throng, [in Jerusalem] too many to count; people from all races, every tribe, nation and language, standing before the throne of the Lamb. They were robed in white and had palm branches in their hands. They shouted: Victory to our God and to the Lamb who sits on the throne!

Note that Jesus will be revealed to His own before His Return. 2 Thess. 1:10, Rev 14:1

All those people who are faithful to God and accept the atoning sacrifice of Jesus, are ‘accounted worthy’. Colossians 1:10-12, 2 Peter 3:14 They are all deemed to be Israelites, whether by descent or by grafting in. Galatians 3:26-29
They will be protected during the forthcoming Day of the Lord’s wrath, Joel 3:32, Isaiah 43:2, and the Lord will provide ways of transportation for them. Psalms 68:17, Psalms 107:1-32, Isaiah 66:20 They will gather and settle into all of the holy Land. Isaiah 49:8-23, Zechariah 10:8-10, Jeremiah 31:8-9 The Lord will give them new names: Isaiah 62:1-5 and a new language: Zephaniah 3:9
 
I've read that the Medes(modern day Iran) will attack Babylon on the day of the Lord.

Now I know you don't believe men kill anyone on the day of The Lord because you've said so, but that's not what the Lord says.

13 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.

2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.

3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.

4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the Lord of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.

5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

6 Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:

8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.

9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.

15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.

18 Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.

19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

Now you claim the Medes nor any other nation kills anyone on the day of the Lord but the Lord says they shall. Why does your prophecies that you prophecy contradict the prophecies of the prophets?
 
Actually this is a historical event. It happened about 2500 years ago.
Actually,

It says it takes place on the day of the Lord. You sure the Day of the Lord took place 2500 years ago?
Also if I'm not mistaken, Revelation says Babylon is destroyed in it as well. You believe not only the day of the Lord was fulfilled 2500 years ago but also Bsbylon was destroyed 2500 years ago?

Revelation 16:19
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

Do you have any more information about when the day of the lord was 2500 years ago?

Isaiah 13:13
13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
 
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cjab

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It says it takes place on the day of the Lord. You sure the Day of the Lord took place 2500 years ago?
Also if I'm not mistaken, Revelation says Babylon is destroyed in it as well. You believe not only the day of the Lord was fulfilled 2500 years ago but also Bsbylon was destroyed 2500 years ago?
Obviously, the Day of the Lord prophecied in the NT is a different day from the day of the Lord prophecied in the OT. Have you not yet grasped the extensive use of types and antitypes in prophecy? Many things that happened literally in the OT replicate themselves symbolically in the NT, and yet also find a more complete and final fulfillment.

Thus in the OT, Cyrus is described as being the Messiah of the Jews. But he was just a type of the true Messiah, the Christ. Same thing with the "day of the Lord" in Isaiah.


Revelation 16:19
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
In Revelation, Babylon is figurative, as is Jerusalem and also many other names and symbols and numbers.
 
Obviously, the Day of the Lord prophecied in the NT is a different day from the day of the Lord prophecied in the OT. Have you not yet grasped the extensive use of types and antitypes in prophecy? Many things that happened literally in the OT replicate themselves symbolically in the NT, and yet also find a more complete and final fulfillment.

Thus in the OT, Cyrus is described as being the Messiah of the Jews. But he was just a type of the true Messiah, the Christ. Same thing with the "day of the Lord" in Isaiah.



In Revelation, Babylon is figurative, as is Jerusalem and also many other names and symbols and numbers.
So you believe revelation is figurative but Isaiah is not even though they say the exact same things take place place on the day of the Lord?
Do you also believe Jesus is being figurative but Isaiah is not even though Jesus says the same thing will happen that isaiah says?

Mathew 24:29
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:


Isaiah 13:10
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
 
Obviously, the Day of the Lord prophecied in the NT is a different day from the day of the Lord prophecied in the OT. Have you not yet grasped the extensive use of types and antitypes in prophecy? Many things that happened literally in the OT replicate themselves symbolically in the NT, and yet also find a more complete and final fulfillment.

Thus in the OT, Cyrus is described as being the Messiah of the Jews. But he was just a type of the true Messiah, the Christ. Same thing with the "day of the Lord" in Isaiah.



In Revelation, Babylon is figurative, as is Jerusalem and also many other names and symbols and numbers.
Also, since you say the day of the Lord in the old testiment took place 2500 years ago, did the Lord stand on the Mt of Olives 2500 years ago as the old testiment says he will?

Zech 14:3-4
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

And Zechariah does say this takes place on the day of the Lord.

Zech 14:1
Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Im just wanting to make sure all these things were fulfilled 2500 years ago as you say because isaiah says the women in Babylon would be raped on that day and zechariah says the women of Jerusalem would be raped on that day.
 

cjab

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So you believe revelation is figurative but Isaiah is not even though they say the exact same things take place place on the day of the Lord?
Rev is more figurative, but both contain figurative language.

Do you also believe Jesus is being figurative but Isaiah is not even though Jesus says the same thing will happen that isaiah says?

Mathew 24:29
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:


Isaiah 13:10
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Indeed these motifs are indicative of wrath, which happened to the Jews in AD70, and will happen in a final sense at the end of the world.
 
Rev is more figurative, but both contain figurative language.


Indeed these motifs are indicative of wrath, which happened to the Jews in AD70, and will happen in a final sense at the end of the world.
Also, since you say the day of the Lord in the old testiment took place 2500 years ago, did the Lord stand on the Mt of Olives 2500 years ago as the old testiment says he will on the day of the Lord?

Zech 14:3-4
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

And Zechariah does say this takes place on the day of the Lord.

Zech 14:1
Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Im just wanting to make sure all these things were fulfilled 2500 years ago as you say because isaiah says the women in Babylon would be raped on the day of the Lord and zechariah says the women of Jerusalem would be raped on the day of the Lord.
Are you positive all these things took place 2500 years ago?
 

cjab

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Also, since you say the day of the Lord in the old testiment took place 2500 years ago, did the Lord stand on the Mt of Olives 2500 years ago as the old testiment says he will?

Zech 14:3-4
Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

And Zechariah does say this takes place on the day of the Lord.

Zech 14:1
Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Im just wanting to make sure all these things were fulfilled 2500 years ago as you say because isaiah says the women in Babylon would be raped on that day and zechariah says the women of Jerusalem would be raped on that day.
You've moved the goal posts from Isaiah to Zechariah. Many commentators suggest that Zech 14 coincides with the Gog and Magog prophecies in Revelation, e.g. Revelation 16:14. Others take Zech 14 as much more figurative and alluding to the triumph of the gospel. I'm not an expert on Zech 14, so will desist from futher comment. However it is always an error to overlook past historical fulfilment.
 
You've moved the goal posts from Isaiah to Zechariah. Many commentators suggest that Zech 14 coincides with the Gog and Magog prophecies in Revelation, e.g. Revelation 16:14. Others take Zech 14 as much more figurative and alluding to the triumph of the gospel. I'm not an expert on Zech 14, so will desist from futher comment. However it is always an error to overlook past historical fulfilment.
I havnt moved the goal posts.
The prophecy is speaking of a specific day called the day of the Lord.
You have made the claim that the day of the Lord took place 2500 years ago.
Im just trying to make sure your interpretation of the day of the Lord is accurate.
After all, your giving me your word that it actually took place 2500 years ago. Are you absolutely positive the day of the Lord took place 2500 years a ago as you have claimed?
 
You've moved the goal posts from Isaiah to Zechariah. Many commentators suggest that Zech 14 coincides with the Gog and Magog prophecies in Revelation, e.g. Revelation 16:14. Others take Zech 14 as much more figurative and alluding to the triumph of the gospel. I'm not an expert on Zech 14, so will desist from futher comment. However it is always an error to overlook past historical fulfilment.
Amos 5:27
Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

According to Amos, the occupants of Israel go into captivity on the day of the Lord.
Zech says the exact same thing.

Zech 14:2
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Now you stated the the day of theord in the old testiment took place 2500 years ago when the Medes(present day Iran) overthrew Babylon.
But most prophets in the old testiment say Jerusalem is overthrown on the day of the Lord.

Perhaps Isaiah as well as Revelation is using the name Babylon to refer to Jerusalem.
After all, the same events isaiah said would happen to Babylon are the same things other prophets said would happen to Jerusalem.

If that's the case then Iran is the beast from the Pitt that attacks Jerusalem in Revelation on the day of the Lord.
 

Keraz

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Zechariah 14:1-2 refers to when the 'beast' of Revelation 13, conquers the holy people. Daniel 7:25
But now:

The Day of the Lord is at hand for all the nations.
Obadiah 1:15-21 The Day of the Lord is at hand for all the nations, they will be treated as they have treated others and their wrong actions will recoil upon themselves. My people will drink the wine of God’s wrath, then all the nations in turn will drink of it and be devastated by it. But in Jerusalem there will be a holy remnant, the Lord’s people will be like a flame while the House of Esau will be burnt up with no survivors. My [Christian] people will possess all of the holy Land that was given to Abraham and those in Jerusalem who lead My people will control the lands of the Edomites, but the Kingdom belongs to the Lord.

Isaiah 28:21-22 The Lord will arise as He did at Mt Perazim and in the valley of Gibeon, and storm with rage to do what He must do, to perform His task – a strange and alien deed. But now, have done with all arrogance and pride or the Lord will increase His punishment, for destruction is decreed over the whole Land. Jeremiah 10:18, Zephaniah 1:14-18

Isaiah 26:10-11 Lord: Your hand is lifted high and Your enemies can’t see Your good will toward Your people. [Let them see and be ashamed.] Let the fire reserved for Your enemies consume them. The wicked are destroyed, they have never learnt justice, they are corrupt and blinded to Your Majesty and power.

Micah 4:11-12 Now, many nations are massed against Israel, they say: Let Zion suffer outrage, we will gloat over their demise. They are unaware of the Lord’s plans, for His purpose is to gather them like sheaves to the threshing floor. Psalms 83

Nahum 1:5 The earth quakes before the Lord, the world and all who live in it are in tumult. Who can stand before His wrath? Who can resist the fury of His anger, poured out as fire? 2 Peter 3:7



The Lord will arise and storm with rage, as He did in ancient times’. Jeremiah 30:23-24, Isaiah 51:9

His task, strange and alien’. We know God as a God of love, but also of justice and it is just to punish those who do not obey Him and who attack His Land. Isaiah 34:5

destruction is decreed’. The entire Middle East will be burnt and devastated. Ezekiel 30:3-5, Isaiah 17:1, Amos 1:3-15

‘fire reserved for the Lord’s enemies will consume them, His anger poured out as fire’. A massive sunstrike CME will fulfil all these prophesied effects. Isaiah 30:26-30, Isaiah 66:15-16, Malachi 4:1

‘My people will drink the wine of God’s wrath’. This will be the third ‘swing of the sword’ Ezekiel 21:14, the final judgement/punishment of the Jewish people. Jeremiah 2:9, Ezekiel 24:14 Only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27

‘now, many nations are massed against Israel’.
This perfectly describes the situation today and they want to ‘gloat over her demise’. Psalms 83:1-18

‘The House of Esau, burnt up – no survivors’. Those attacking Israel will be totally wiped out. Zephaniah 3:8, Zephaniah 2:4-5

‘those who lead My people’. Another proof that all this will happen before the Return of Jesus. Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11

 
Zechariah 14:1-2 refers to when the 'beast' of Revelation 13, conquers the holy people. Daniel 7:25
But now:

The Day of the Lord is at hand for all the nations.
Obadiah 1:15-21 The Day of the Lord is at hand for all the nations, they will be treated as they have treated others and their wrong actions will recoil upon themselves. My people will drink the wine of God’s wrath, then all the nations in turn will drink of it and be devastated by it. But in Jerusalem there will be a holy remnant, the Lord’s people will be like a flame while the House of Esau will be burnt up with no survivors. My [Christian] people will possess all of the holy Land that was given to Abraham and those in Jerusalem who lead My people will control the lands of the Edomites, but the Kingdom belongs to the Lord.

Isaiah 28:21-22 The Lord will arise as He did at Mt Perazim and in the valley of Gibeon, and storm with rage to do what He must do, to perform His task – a strange and alien deed. But now, have done with all arrogance and pride or the Lord will increase His punishment, for destruction is decreed over the whole Land. Jeremiah 10:18, Zephaniah 1:14-18

Isaiah 26:10-11 Lord: Your hand is lifted high and Your enemies can’t see Your good will toward Your people. [Let them see and be ashamed.] Let the fire reserved for Your enemies consume them. The wicked are destroyed, they have never learnt justice, they are corrupt and blinded to Your Majesty and power.

Micah 4:11-12 Now, many nations are massed against Israel, they say: Let Zion suffer outrage, we will gloat over their demise. They are unaware of the Lord’s plans, for His purpose is to gather them like sheaves to the threshing floor. Psalms 83

Nahum 1:5 The earth quakes before the Lord, the world and all who live in it are in tumult. Who can stand before His wrath? Who can resist the fury of His anger, poured out as fire? 2 Peter 3:7



The Lord will arise and storm with rage, as He did in ancient times’. Jeremiah 30:23-24, Isaiah 51:9

His task, strange and alien’. We know God as a God of love, but also of justice and it is just to punish those who do not obey Him and who attack His Land. Isaiah 34:5

destruction is decreed’. The entire Middle East will be burnt and devastated. Ezekiel 30:3-5, Isaiah 17:1, Amos 1:3-15

‘fire reserved for the Lord’s enemies will consume them, His anger poured out as fire’. A massive sunstrike CME will fulfil all these prophesied effects. Isaiah 30:26-30, Isaiah 66:15-16, Malachi 4:1

‘My people will drink the wine of God’s wrath’. This will be the third ‘swing of the sword’ Ezekiel 21:14, the final judgement/punishment of the Jewish people. Jeremiah 2:9, Ezekiel 24:14 Only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27

‘now, many nations are massed against Israel’.
This perfectly describes the situation today and they want to ‘gloat over her demise’. Psalms 83:1-18

‘The House of Esau, burnt up – no survivors’. Those attacking Israel will be totally wiped out. Zephaniah 3:8, Zephaniah 2:4-5

‘those who lead My people’. Another proof that all this will happen before the Return of Jesus. Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11
No, God does not use a CME to destroy Babylon. He said he will use the Medes which are the people located in Iran. And as everyone knows, it is Iran's goal to destroy the Israeli goverment and retake Jerusalem which scripture shows takes place on the day of the Lord.
 

Keraz

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No, God does not use a CME to destroy Babylon. He said he will use the Medes which are the people located in Iran. And as everyone knows, it is Iran's goal to destroy the Israeli goverment and retake Jerusalem which scripture shows takes place on the day of the Lord.
What will happen when Iran and their proxies commence their attack on Israel; is their own total destruction. Jeremiah 49:35-37, Ezekiel 32:24-25, Isaiah 21:1-2
The Lord will use an explosion of the suns surface to literally fulfil the virtual depopulation of the entire Middle East region. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Zephaniah 2:4-6, Jeremiah 10:18, Hosea 4:3
 
What will happen when Iran and their proxies commence their attack on Israel; is their own total destruction. Jeremiah 49:35-37, Ezekiel 32:24-25, Isaiah 21:1-2
The Lord will use an explosion of the suns surface to literally fulfil the virtual depopulation of the entire Middle East region. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Zephaniah 2:4-6, Jeremiah 10:18, Hosea 4:3
After iran attacks israel, the king of the north destroys them all as Daniel wrote.


Daniel 11:40
At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood.

Daniel 11:42
He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape.

While you claim God will kill all the inhabitants with a sunspot. The actual word of God says the king of the north destroys them. The actual word of God says no one will be able to set foot in egypt for 40 years after this. But you don't know the actual word of God. You only know your own misguided delusions which you have conjured up.
 
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Keraz

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Isaiah 26:20-21 Go, My people, withdraw for a little while, until the Lord’s wrath has passed. The Lord is coming to punish the wicked and apostate peoples of the earth. All sins will be exposed and brought to light. Isaiah 66:15-17

Isaiah 27:1-12 On that Day, the Lord will punish with His powerful sword Leviathan, that twisting serpent. He will kill the monster of the deep.

On that Day, sing of the fruitful vineyard – I the Lord am its keeper. I tend it constantly, but I get no fruit from it. If only it were briars and thorns, then I would not hesitate to destroy it. But if they
[Christian Israelites] come to Me for refuge, I will let them make peace with Me. In a time to come, Jacob’s posterity will prosper and Israel will flourish. They will fill the whole earth with fruit. Galatians 3:26-29

Has the Lord struck Israel, as He killed their enemies? No, the atonement for Jacob’s guilt is made by their sojourn in exile. All the idol worshipping altars and sacred objects will be destroyed.

The fortified cities lie abandoned. Animals graze there and the trees are dead, good only for firewood. For they were a people without understanding, so their Maker will show them no favour.

On that Day, the Lord will thresh the grain from the Euphrates to the Wadi of Egypt and you, My Israelite people, will be gathered one by one. On that Day, a Great Trumpet will sound and those who were exiled in Assyria and Egypt will come to worship the Lord in Jerusalem.
Ref: REB, NIV some verses abridged



The Lord is coming to punish the wicked… and expose all sins’. This event is not to be confused with the Return in glory, where ‘He gathers His elect’, after the Great Tribulation. Matthew 24:31 It will be the fulfilment of: Isaiah 66:15-18a, The Lord is coming in fire…He will test all mankind, for He knows their deeds and thoughts.

And 2 Peter 3:7-12 The present heavens and earth are reserved for burning…kept until the Day when the godless will be destroyed…All the earth will be brought to judgement. He will not be seen on that Day: Psalms 18:11, Psalms 97:1-7, Hab. 3:4, and ‘the wicked will perish’ – Psalm 37:10-20, Hebrews 10:27. He will cleanse all the holy land – Isaiah 9:18-19, Ezekiel 30:1-5 and purge His people of unrighteousness – Ezekiel 20:34-38, Isaiah 1:24-25, 1 Cor.3:11-15

The Lord’s wrath’, the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. Rev. 6:12-17, Isaiah 13:9-13, Joel 1:15-20, Zephaniah 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7 The Lord’s Day of judgement/punishment against His enemies, who are led by Satan referred to here as a serpent.

The Lord’s fruitful vineyard’, Israel. If they acknowledge and trust God, He will save them. Joel 2:32 Israel- that is of all the 12 tribes, plus those who are grafted in and are judged righteous will be ‘gathered one by one’ and settled into the Land. They will be ‘a light to the nations’ and will send out 144,000 missionaries to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Isaiah 66:19, Revelation 7:1-9

The atonement for Jacob’s guilt is made by their time in exile’. The sins of the forefathers are expiated by the long exile of their descendants. Isaiah 10:27, Isaiah 40:1-2

The whole area is abandoned’. All the holy Land is devastated and virtually depopulated after the Day of wrath. Rev. 6:12-17 The trees are burned and killed because of this fire judgement, that will be a CME sunstrike. Isaiah 30:22-28, Malachi 4:1&3 , Psalms 60:2, Isaiah 32:12-14

For they were a people without understanding’. This refers to the current atheistic, apostate and idol worshipping inhabitants of the Land. Isaiah 3:8-9, Jeremiah 12:14, Luke 19:27

The great Trumpet will sound’, All righteous people, who love the Lord, need to be prepared for a time, soon after the Lord’s Day of wrath, for when the Call comes to go to and gather in the Promised Land. Psalms 107, Isaiah 11:11-12, Zechariah 9:14-17

You Israelites will be gathered one by one’. On that Day, all the world will be judged. Only a remnant will be saved in Israel. But then all the faithful Christian exiles from Assyria [the 10 Northern tribes] and Egypt [Judah] will regather in the holy Land. Zechariah 10:8-11
Ref; logostelos.info
 
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