Scripture says that the dead are still alive:WHich means absolutely NOTHING.
You seem to forget that before a person can be a "Canonized Saint" in the Roman Catholic system, they have to cough up TWO "verifiable miracles" as the result of prayers directed to them specifically to be considered to have enough "clout" with Father to merit the title: "SAINT".
The Bible tells Physically ALIVE Christians to pray for other PHYSICALLY ALIVE Christians. You'd know that if you ever read your Bible.
Orthodox do pray for the departed.Orthodox don't believe in purgatory.
Into your hands, O merciful Savior,
we commend your servant Name.
Acknowledge, we humbly beseech you,
a sheep of your own fold,
a lamb of your own flock,
a sinner of your own redeeming.
Receive Name into the arms of your mercy,
into the blessed rest of everlasting peace,
and into the glorious company of the saints of light. Amen
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It is not consider the real word of God by Hebrew speaking Jewish people and Jesus was a Hebrew speaking Jewish person. The early believers like Peter and his gang spoke Hebrew. Even today Hebrew scripture are considered the real thing by the Jewish people.It's part of the Septuagint, the Greek Old Testament that the Greek speaking Jews used, but most importantly, the early Christians.
And so they are, either in Heaven or Hell - depending.Scripture says that the dead are still alive:
Only A "denominational theological assumption", with nothing bu "Religious Tradition" to support itThe angels and saints in heaven are aware of our petitions and continue to pray for us and with us.
Actually, Jesus spoke Aramaic since that was the language that was spoken in Palestine as well as Greek I'm sure since it was the lingua franca of the area. And yes, Greek speaking Jews saw the Septuagint as "the real word of God".It is not consider the real word of God by Hebrew speaking Jewish people and Jesus was a Hebrew speaking Jewish person.
Aramaic was the spoken language of the region, not Hebrew. Hebrew was a "dead" language, like Latin is today. Hebrew was used probably in the synagogue and the temple but not as a common, spoken language.The early believers like Peter and his gang spoke Hebrew.
Not all. Ethiopian Jews use the Septuagint to this day. Plus, Orthodox are Christian, not Jewish, so the Jewish religion can use whatever Old Testament Scripture they like.Even today Hebrew scripture are considered the real thing by the Jewish people.
Yes, that is a modern tradition that has developed in the west. Of course, some go a step further and take a Calvinist position that God has predestined the living to either heaven or hell from the beginning of time. Prayers for the living would be equally worthless based on that logic.Why??? the "Departed" are either in Heaven, and don't need your prayers, of in HELL and well beyond the effect of them.
May the Lord show mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, because he often refreshed me and was not ashamed of my chains. On the contrary, when he was in Rome, he searched hard for me until he found me. May the Lord grant that he will find mercy from the Lord on that day! You know very well in how many ways he helped me in Ephesus. 2 Tim 1-16-18
WHO CARES what "some do". "Some" believe that if you don't go to church on Saturday, you're not saved.Yes, that is a modern tradition that has developed in the west. Of course, some go a step further and take a Calvinist position that God has predestined the living to either heaven or hell from the beginning of time. Prayers for the living would be equally worthless based on that logic.
The reality is that Jews at the time of Christ prayed for the departed and Christians continued the practice, which confirms the belief in the resurrection.
If you doubt that consider Paul's for Onesiphorus and is household. From the context Onesiphorus is already dead:
I care about what the apostles did and taught, and Paul included a prayer for the dead in his letter.WHO CARES what "some do". "Some" believe that if you don't go to church on Saturday, you're not saved.
Because it's a total LIE. When physical life ends, the die is cast, and we go to out predetermined destinations. That a Jewish writing would suggest otherwise, automatically disqualifies it as being Spiritually valid.The clearest scriptural support the value of prayers for the dead and the intercession of saints are found in the books that Protestant bibles deleted, and that was a big factor in their deletion.
Paul was a Jew. So were the apostles and the authors of the New Testament. Many Jews welcomed Jesus and his teaching.Remember that the Jews were SO UTTERLY IGNORANT of God's plan that when their Redeemer came, they didn't recognize Him, and ended up MURDERING HIM in their ignorance.
Other than the lack of several worthless books, which teach NOTHING of value, what do we LOSE by eliminating them??On the other hand, the modern Protestant bibles use a canon based on the scriptures of the Pharisees, even though many of the Pharisees were terribly wrong about Jesus.
Why should Christians exclusively use the scriptures of the Pharisees over the version used by the apostles and early Christians?