Debate: Trent Horn vs Steve Christie (Marian dogmas)

RayneBeau

Well-known member
Balshan made an excellent point. Now look at the historical context. Why did God give this commandment? What was the reason? If you knew the answer to that, you wouldn't have made the foolish response you did.
Roman Catholics need to seriously 'wake-up' to the fact that God has not been slow to express His opposition to the use of sacred images. He prohibits them because they cannot convey who God is. No image of Jesus, no matter how magnificient it is, can capture the nature of the Lord. And all the well-meaning attempts only incur His displeasure. After God delivered Israel from bondage in Egypt He said to the Israelites, "You saw no form of any kind the day the Lord spoke to you a Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman." (Deut. 4: 15-16)
Could God have said this any plainer for the rulers of the Roman Catholic Church to understand?
 

Buzzard

Well-known member
John to the seven churches which are in Asia:
and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;


5 And from Jesus Christ,

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience,
and how thou canst not bear them which are evil:
and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles,
and are not, and hast found them liars:
.
the blasphemy
of them which say they are Jews,
and are not, but are
the synagogue of Satan.

to Sing the Song of Moses
Deut. ch. 32
and echo the words of John,
Christ saith:
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God,
and the song of the Lamb,
saying,

....................

a person is not in danger of the Judgement to come
 

pilgrim

Well-known member
John to the seven churches which are in Asia:
and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;


5 And from Jesus Christ,

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience,
and how thou canst not bear them which are evil:
and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles,
and are not, and hast found them liars:
.
the blasphemy
of them which say they are Jews,
and are not, but are
the synagogue of Satan.

to Sing the Song of Moses
Deut. ch. 32
and echo the words of John,
Christ saith:
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God,
and the song of the Lamb,
saying,

....................

a person is not in danger of the Judgement to come
I could quote that at you as well.
 

Buzzard

Well-known member
well, Pilgrem
are you going to answer the question asked

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RiJoRi

Well-known member
Ah yes, don't you just love the way the RCC cleverly changed the 10 commandments - it is a true work of Satan. The RCC ignores the second of the 10 Commandments by numbering the commandments in an odd way. If you compare the commandments in the Bible with those in the RCC Catechism, you will see that the 1st Commandment as recorded in both the Bible and the RCC Catechism is identical. However, when the RCC came to 2nd commandment, which forbids the making of sacred images, the RCC omitted from the RCC Catechism. :devilish:

How then does the RCC still have 10 commandments in their own Catechism if one is omitted? Hmm-m-m-m-m? Well, this "magic act" of Satan's trickery happened when the Roman Catholic Church numbered the commandments so that God's 3rd commandment in the Bible magically became the 2nd Commandment in the RCC Catechism, and the 4th Commandment in the Bible became the 3rd Commandment in the RCC, and the God's 5th Commandment in the Bible became the 4th in the RCC and so on. When the Roman Catholic Church came to the 10th commandment (which forbids coveting), then the RCC had two commandments devilishly created from it which is God's 9th Commandment - do not covet your neighbor's wife, and God's 10th Commandment - do not covet your neighbor's goods. By making two commandments out of the 10th commandment and omitting God's Commandment forbidding the making of sacred images, the Church of Roman Catholicism is able to have 10 commandments that are of their creation. :devilish:
Numerical hocus-pocus, indeed.

--Rich
"Esse quam videri"
 

Buzzard

Well-known member
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Is that necessary?
Pligrim;
Not it should not be necessary,
you shoild be able to read Moses ch.32 for yourself
and say
"No; Peter is not "God" nor is he the Rock either
and no way was he the 1st Pope

but whether you like it or not
Deut. ch 32 is the message for today
why do you think God is using every means available
to pull back the "Cloke" the RCC has clothed itself in
to hid her shame
and as he said in Isaiah ch.47
he will strip her naked and show the entire world just what the RCC is

as Paul said of Rome
Eph.5:12
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret."
 
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pilgrim

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would you like it better if I told you what your "Manure Mouth PooP " really is

Gen.19:14
And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law,
which married his daughters,
and said,
Up, get you out of this place;
for the Lord will destroy this city.

But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
No. It reflects poorly on you.
 

Buzzard

Well-known member
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would you like it better if I told you what your "Manure Mouth PooP " really is

Gen.19:14
And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law,
which married his daughters,
and said,
Up, get you out of this place;
for the Lord will destroy this city.

But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
No. It reflects poorly on you.
Not really
Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha,
and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


22. And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear,
pulling them out of the fire;
hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
 

pilgrim

Well-known member
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would you like it better if I told you what your "Manure Mouth PooP " really is

Gen.19:14
And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law,
which married his daughters,
and said,
Up, get you out of this place;
for the Lord will destroy this city.

But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

Not really
Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha,
and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


22. And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear,
pulling them out of the fire;
hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
I am safer in the Church than you are outside of it.
 

mica

Well-known member
Buzzard said:

would you like it better if I told you what your "Manure Mouth PooP " really is

Gen.19:14
And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law,
which married his daughters,
and said,
Up, get you out of this place;
for the Lord will destroy this city.

But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

Not really
Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha,
and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


22. And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear,
pulling them out of the fire;
hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
I am safer in the Church than you are outside of it.
safer how?

there's nothing spiritually safe about the rcc.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
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well, Pilgrem
are you going to answer the question asked

Was / is Peter or your Poop-Say """GOD""
"Poop-say"? Did you mean "pope"?
 

balshan

Well-known member
I am safer in the Church than you are outside of it.
That is a lie you tell yourself. You are not safe because you do not know which flock member will be harmed when the urge takes over one of the evil leaders. So many of the flock have been harmed physically throughout the centuries.

It teaches false doctrines that take the focus from Jesus.

They are not apostolic, they do what the apostles would never do.
 
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