Twaddle.
Debate: Trent Horn vs Steve Christie (Marian dogmas)
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dingoling.
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Show us the official teaching of the Catholic Church where we have deified anyone but God.
Just because it is not an official teaching doesn't mean that is the end of it. When you make Marian doctrines an essential for salvation, then you are making her a goddess. When you make statues of her and pray to her (which no apostle ever did) you are making her a goddess. The lightening of candles and putting flowers in front of her statues is making her a goddess.
If it looks like worship of an idol, then it is worshipping an idol. ACTIONS speak louder than words, which RCs do not seem to comprehend.
organgrinder
Super Member
Only in your mind do you think it has been answered. Why do you think people continue to pose the question? It is because you DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
1Thess521
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the word "pray" means to request of of a deity EVERY SINGLE TIME proseuchomai is used in the New Testament!!!!
Pray (4336) (proseuchomai from pros = toward, facing, before [emphasizing the direct approach of the one who prays in seeking God’s face] + euchomai = originally to speak out, utter aloud, express a wish, then to pray or to vow. Greek technical term for invoking a deity) in the NT is always used of prayer addressed to God (to Him as the object of faith and the One who will answer one’s prayer) and means to speak consciously (with or without vocalization) to Him, with a definite aim.
Prove me wrong!!
1Thess521
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You assign divine only attributes to those other than God:
Is Mary omnipotent?
catholicism is not Christianity.
it seems like you are again denying God's word.
your catholic beliefs aren't even hinted at in scripture. they are contrary to His word.
Oh, how lucky we are! Not only did the RCC give us the Bible, but they have also made God, God! W-O-W 😲
Keep going, dingaling - you're proving that the RCC does not worship the God of the Bible, but some pagan amalgam.
Do you [ray to either Mary or any saints?
dingoling.
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We ask for their intercessions. Are you a Jewish Christians?
organgrinder
Super Member
You didn't directly answer the question as usual. Do you PRAY to Mary or any of the saints? Tell us how you go about asking for intercessions. What does that mean and why is it necessary. You have three things to address here. Can you do it?
They do indeed pray to Mary, asking for her to intercede for them!
Is talking and praying to any but God violating the command not to speak to the dead?
organgrinder
Super Member
Jesus modeled the prayer. Addressed to "Our Father, who art in heaven". Nothing about dead folks that I can see or read about in scripture.
pilgrim
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Mothers do more than just "birth".
pilgrim
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Peter walked on water. Can humans walk on water? No. So how did he walk on water?
his focus was on Jesus. when he took it off of Jesus - what happened to him?
dingoling.
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So we can know that our focus is on Jesus if we can walk on water.
Only until he looked around and then he sank. That is the problem RC have their eyes are not on Jesus.
He told Moses that was an abomination, did he now have a change of mind?