Sketo
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Neutrality seams to suggest equal disposition towards both options avaliable.
Sin vs. Not-Sin, 50/50...
Where did the tie-breaker come from? 51/49 ≠ neutral!
Did God Initially Create Adam With A Sin Nature?
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Sin vs. Not-Sin, 50/50...
Where did the tie-breaker come from? 51/49 ≠ neutral!
No tie breaker. He was neutral until he sinned. At that moment Adam lost dominion over all creation, and sin became manifest. Once again, the eyes of Adam and Eve were not opened to evil/sin until they took of the fruit. If Adam had dumped Eve, he would have been found righteous, given a new companion, and who knows what the world would be like.
Sketo
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Maybe I misunderstood the conversation. If I did I apologize.
This seams to suggest that there would be a neutral disposition towards the good option and a neutral disposition towards the evil option.
That’s the part I’m not clear on...”he ate of the fruit because he was neutral and it could go either way.”
Then you said...
If neutral disposition what broke the tie in the competition between God and Eve?
brightfame52
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Much of this post is built up speculation and not facts. When Adam and eve sinned, their sin nature became manifest and the lost their innocency and came to realize they were evil.
Possibly, not sure.
I wouldn't even say disposition, but I can't say that wholeheartedly since my philosophy skills are very rusty.
I think it was love. Adam loved Eve, and didn't want to leave her. I mean, God did create the perfect companion for him. Adam covered that up by just saying it was that woman God made for him.
So God justified evil by calling it good? I mean, once again at the end of the 6th day, God looked upon all He created and called it good. Yet, further on in the Old Testament, God says that if anyone or anything justifies evil or calls evil good, they are corrupt and evil. So is God corrupt and evil?
brightfame52
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Evil was good, it was according to God's Eternal Purpose in Christ!
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TomFL
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and up is down right ?
That still does not deal with that fact that you just said that God called evil good, and that the Old Testament says that that would make God evil. This is an area that you should not tread as heavily as you do, and I am trying to avoid, because the Bible is not at all clear oh the mechanisms of God allowing evil to occur in His creation. The only point that I have tried to make, is I believe, for Adam, the reason he sinned is because he fell head over heels in love with the perfect companion God created for him. That's all I was trying to say. Nothing more.
brightfame52
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I explained it, that settles it for me.
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TomFL
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Have fun trying to get an explaination from that poster
You can believe God is evil all you want, but I won't go there.
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TomFL
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Nor should anyone
brightfame52
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I never said God is evil. I gave you my reason why God calls evil good. You should be honest about that.
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TomFL
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Is. 5:20 —KJV
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
brightfame52
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So you can quote a scripture.
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TomFL
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Hello ?
Is. 5:20 —KJV
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
But the Bible clearly states if anyone calls evil good...they are evil. [You do realize that I have been trying to tell you to quit while you are a head. You could speculate yourself into actually calling God evil. Not a place I would want to be.]
brightfame52
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I know what the verse says. It doesn't apply here in my opinion. Again I gave you a reason. If you ignored it or disagreed with and then impute on me that I said God is evil, to me that is dishonesty and I will leave that with God.
Thank you.