John and Thomas believed that Jesus was/is God.What did Jesus really teach about WHO is GOD to his followers? Did they believe he was God? Did they teach that belief to the next generation of Christians who learned their own beliefs from them?
When did that belief appear on the Christian scene and why is that fact important to us today?
There was/is no "new belief" not supported by earlier works.The last book considered part of the authentic inspired canon of the Holy Scriptures was Apocalipsis. It was finished writing and circulated in Christian congregations by the beginning of the second century. The existing Christian community after the death of John, its writer, no longer produced any new Scripture considered to be of divine inspiration. From that time on, the stage of formation of the basis of true Christianity had been completed, the one taught by Jesus and his followers anointed with holy spirit.
Should we believe that some new belief that was not supported by the earlier work of the holy spirit was true? Was the Christian community after that date authorized in any way to introduce new dogmas into the teachings that new Christians were to learn?
Obviously He DID. Romans 9:5; 10:13; 11:33-36; Acts 17:24.Let's talk about Paul and his beliefs as a Christian. He is a prominent example of a first-century Christian, for without being a follower of Jesus when he was alive, Paul was selected by God as the inspired writer of more than half the books of the New Testament.
Did Paul believe or teach that his God was Jesus Christ?
Obviously, when he mentioned God, he didn't mean a Trinity. Jesus is not a Trinitarian. He wasn't when he lived as a human, and neither is he now in heaven.
Even the disciples didn't understand what Jesus was saying half the time. By the standard people are using here, you would end up believing Jesus would disagree with Paul. Clearly Jesus spoke in symbolic, veiled and limited imagery and said so many times.
Consider, for example, the parable of the prodigal son contained in a triplet. In Luke 15:3 we have a story of a shepherd going out to find his lost sheep, like Jesus is the good Shepherd. This is followed up by a female (and "wisdom" in the original has a feminine gender) who is sweeping a house for lost coins, the house being the church. She "lights a lamp to sweep," and the Spirit of the Lord is associated with bringing light and cleansing. Now this is followed up finally by the story of a father waiting for his lost son... looking out the window. And in that order, Son, Spirit, Father. You will find many "coincedences" like this all throughout Scripture. "For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father." (Eph 2:18 NKJ) Through the Son... by the Spirit... to the Father. You will find triplets like this everywhere. If they were really the same identity, it would seem quite redundant.
When I talk to trinitarians about some Jesus' sayings that contradict the idea of a triune god, they say most of the time it is because Jesus was talking as a man ... so, it looks like for the Trinitarians not even Jesus was aware that he himself was God.Even the disciples didn't understand what Jesus was saying half the time. (...)