I am going with what you are saying. So let us break it down.Wrong
…and the Word was God.
Micah 5:2
The word is Jesus
God is the father of Jesus
Therefore Jesus the Word was God his father.
I am going with what you are saying. So let us break it down.Wrong
…and the Word was God.
Micah 5:2
No bible says that Jesus is both God and man. It says Jesus is a man and God is his father.The Bible, which says Jesus Christ is God and Man, made up my mind many years ago.
I didn't say that, and you're not paying attention to what I've said.So, humans are omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent?
You didn't pay attention to what I said was my understanding of the image, which isn't the essence of God.After all, if that truism is false, all attributes of God were attributed to men being made in his image.
Then, what's the problem?Does that seem right? Maybe, you are over thinking things. I never implied image necessarily relates to essence.
Great. Then why argue for the trinity in this OP?I never said it is a truism is that God consists of 3 persons. You need to read more carefully.
See above.You aren't reading carefully enough. I never said or implied that the Trinity was a truism.
But, you contradict yourself as you've said above the trinity isn't a truism, and therefore not an attribute.Sorry dude, you just need to reread what I said. Some attributes of God were attributed to men being made in his image. Other's are not. And, being three persons is not one of those attributes that are given to men.
You've implied it when you say Jesus as a man relates to the godhead as a creature.Did I say Jesus stopped being God too when he became man?
Ok. So please make up your mind if the trinity is a truism or not.Nope. You are reading so much into my statements that I'm not saying.
It shows both of his natures bowed to God, as both natures are in a union, correct?The fact Jesus worshipped the Father as man shows his humanity isn't God.
Not when he bows to God with both natures.That Jesus has two natures doesn't change the fact that as God Jesus is the perfect image of God.
LikewiseGod Bless
Jesus is a man and you say Jesus is God...moving onDid I say God is man? Nope. Moving on.
Yes, it is...Where did Jesus say he is God? You falsely teach that Jesus is God. This thread is about did Jesus teach he was God himself. No one has been able to show Jesus saying he is God.Bearing false witness is a sin.
God Bless
19. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord;Each person by himself is the SAME God because there is only one divinity, one God.
John say’s the WORD was With and WAS GOD.I am going with what you are saying. So let us break it down.
The word is Jesus
God is the father of Jesus
Therefore Jesus the Word was God his father.
BTW, you are correct here.Was the Sabbath made for man or was man made for the Sabbath? If the sabbath was made for me then why should i not have dominion over it?
Rotfl... as John 14:6 is about SALVATION ( not the Law ) being ONLY THROUGH Jesus Christ! Case closed!Rotfl... Tanakh says this all about the law.
Not only that the whole of historical Israel was dispersed among heathens in all countries. That's one of the reasons we have the NT in Greek. The so called Jews returned to their land since 1948 to prepare for Anti-Messiah since they rejected the true Messiah Yeshua. But according to scriptures they may be ethnic but not true Jews. A true Jew is the one circumcised in his heart and not mere flesh.The old is over, the new is brought in.
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Zech
10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. 11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD. 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD. I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
Ezekiel was conditional and failed. GONE!
Son of man, describe the temple to the people of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their sins. Let them consider its perfection, and if they are ashamed of all they have done, make known to them the design of the temple—its arrangement, its exits and entrances—its whole design and all its regulations and laws.” Ezekiel 43: 10-11
Not
Too summarize all the Jewish people who rejected Yeshua since are lost.
Only a Remnant is saved.
Not only that the whole of historical Israel was dispersed among heathens in all countries. That's one of the reasons we have the NT in Greek. The so called Jews returned to their land since 1948 to prepare for Anti-Messiah since they rejected the true Messiah Yeshua. But according to scriptures they may be ethnic but not true Jews. A true Jew is the one circumcised in his heart and not mere flesh.The old is over, the new is brought in.
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Zech
10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. 11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD. 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD. I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
Ezekiel was conditional and failed. GONE!
Son of man, describe the temple to the people of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their sins. Let them consider its perfection, and if they are ashamed of all they have done, make known to them the design of the temple—its arrangement, its exits and entrances—its whole design and all its regulations and laws.” Ezekiel 43: 10-11
Not
Too summarize all the Jewish people who rejected Yeshua since are lost.
Only a Remnant is saved.
It's not possible to belong to Christ and speak against His Deity. That's all I want to saySorry mu post is not full of you.
No, it does not.
I already said that
No, it does not. This is the time of the gentiles...
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
To be a christian is a self-appointment. God did not call anyone to be a christian
He did fulfil it.
I belong to Christ so your claim is baseless.
Another baseless claim. The scripture speaks about them. The RCC is the Mother of harlots and Those that came out from her are her daughters...
How does that make any sense? Are you saying nothing else but the history of Israel is true? I already said God did not call anyone to be a christian, therefore christians are not grafted anywhere
They are not grafted to Israel either.
What Israel? To this day the leaders of Israel reject Jesus.
The Jewish leadership was always anti Christ, they killed him, didn't they?
God gives them understanding.
No it does not. Those are two different cities.
It is the RCC The RCC is the leader of world religions...
In terms of Religious leadership, Jerusalem is not reigning over anyone . But the Vatican does
That is another city...
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
And Jerusalem never reigned over any kings of the earth...18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Then it is clear you are conflating two different cities... One where our Lord was crucified and one who reigns over the kings of the earth...
And you are adding to the confusion
And you are teaching two different cities as one city.
Read what Jesus said in John 4:13-14+25+26 ---------------The law is the way to life. Even Jesus confirms this.
WRONG, as Jesus POINT Blank said Himself ( in John 14:6 ) that He is the way, truth. and life and that NO one comes to the FATHER except THROUGH Him ( Jesus Christ )! Case closed!This refers to Torah, which is the way, truth, and life.
That's the nonsense we always hear from Unitarians. Did Yeshua teach He is God. What God you are talking about you don't know. The invisible and His image - same God with form and face. The more you deny the more you adhere to depravity - darkness where Satan is the king.Jesus is a man and you say Jesus is God...moving on
Yes, it is...Where did Jesus say he is God? You falsely teach that Jesus is God. This thread is about did Jesus teach he was God himself. No one has been able to show Jesus saying he is God.
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;Rotfl... as John 14:6 is about SALVATION ( not the Law ) being ONLY THROUGH Jesus Christ! Case closed!
I didn't say that, and you're not paying attention to what I've said.So, humans are omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent?
BTW, Jesus wasn't any of these things either. He admitted he didn't know all things, only did what the Father dictated, confined to earth, etc.
You didn't pay attention to what I said was my understanding of the image, which isn't the essence of God.DoctrinesofGraceBapt said:
After all, if that truism is false, all attributes of God were attributed to men being made in his image.
You still didn't answer why humans can't be 3 persons?
Then, what's the problem?DoctrinesofGraceBapt said:
Does that seem right? Maybe, you are over thinking things. I never implied image necessarily relates to essence.
Great. Then why argue for the trinity in this OP?DoctrinesofGraceBapt said:
I never said it is a truism is that God consists of 3 persons. You need to read more carefully.
But, you contradict yourself as you've said above the trinity isn't a truism, and therefore not an attribute.DoctrinesofGraceBapt said:
Sorry dude, you just need to reread what I said. Some attributes of God were attributed to men being made in his image. Other's are not. And, being three persons is not one of those attributes that are given to men.
You've implied it when you say Jesus as a man relates to the godhead as a creature.
Ok. So please make up your mind if the trinity is a truism or not.
It shows both of his natures bowed to God, as both natures are in a union, correct?DoctrinesofGraceBapt said:
The fact Jesus worshipped the Father as man shows his humanity isn't God.
You falsely teach He is not God when mankind is created in His image.Jesus is a man and you say Jesus is God...moving on
Yes, it is...Where did Jesus say he is God? You falsely teach that Jesus is God. This thread is about did Jesus teach he was God himself. No one has been able to show Jesus saying he is God.
Tortured NONSENSE.I am going with what you are saying. So let us break it down.
The word is Jesus
God is the father of Jesus
Therefore Jesus the Word was God his father.
Jesus is God AND Man.Jesus is a man and you say Jesus is God...moving on
Yes, it is...Where did Jesus say he is God? You falsely teach that Jesus is God. This thread is about did Jesus teach he was God himself. No one has been able to show Jesus saying he is God.
The truth is Jesus is God in the form of Man in whose imag you were created. We can't divide Him between God and Man. The false doctrine has been around since a long time. His Body is not from dust like Adam's corruptible body of dust. His body was prepared from heaven. How could He say He is The Bread from heaven if He got Body from Mary. I'm here to uproot all traditional false doctrines we inherited by means of tradition. He would not have been qualified to offer his Body as sin offering had He got His body from Mary (body of dust).Jesus is God AND Man.
Jesus is a man and you say Jesus is God...moving onDid I say God is man? Nope. Moving on.
Yes, it is...Where did Jesus say he is God? You falsely teach that Jesus is God. This thread is about did Jesus teach he was God himself. No one has been able to show Jesus saying he is God.
19. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord;Each person by himself is the SAME God because there is only one divinity, one God.
It does not say the SAME God does it? You are not making any sense. You seem to be overriding the Athanasian Creed. Clearly the Creed says each person by himself( not together) is God there are three persons therefore three Gods. The next line forbids you from saying three Gods.