direct answers to a direct questions

Kirby said:
My personal experience has been that when nCCs quote the CCC they cherry pick paragraphs and ignore the larger context. IOW, they treat each paragraph as independent of any other paragraph.
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No they don't, they know and are able to understand the false teachings in the catechism. But you described how RCs read the scriptures, oh let us be honest, it is worse they just cut out a whole lot of verses that they want to ignore like 1 cor 5:11, eph 2:8 and 9. Also RCs prefer the fallible writings of men rather than the word of God.
 
1Thess521 said:
IOW: what will it take to get a direct answer to a direct question?
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Or, what will it take for you to accept the answer that the Catholic gives, not the answer you want to Catholic to give? IOW, you ask a question or make a statement, the Catholic answers, we disagree on said answer and then we both move on. It's that simple.
 
Misfit said:
Or, what will it take for you to accept the answer that the Catholic gives, not the answer you want to Catholic to give? IOW, you ask a question or make a statement, the Catholic answers, we disagree on said answer and then we both move on. It's that simple.
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I am not talking about not liking the answer:
The point is that the reply is not an answer to the question asked.
You want simple?
Include the question in the answer!

Is that doesn't work: then the question wasn't answered.


3rd grade simple!!!

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Ideas to help kids Restate the Question in the Answer

Ideas and resources for teaching students to Restate the Question in the Answer: PQA, TTQA, RACE acronyms are included.
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Misfit said:
Or, what will it take for you to accept the answer that the Catholic gives, not the answer you want to Catholic to give? IOW, you ask a question or make a statement, the Catholic answers, we disagree on said answer and then we both move on. It's that simple.
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Your comment is too true. Beyond false arguments, begging questions, generalizations and Ad hominem propositions, I've found that what seems to motivate the non-Catholic is the "gotcha" question; any inconsistency will do. And, if you don't answer in the "gotcha" mode, Catholicism becomes populated by logger heads and mind numbed robots. There seems to be a motivation to disprove 2,000 years of Catholic history, Catholic worship, and Catholic theology as well as Catholic Scripture. All of which undercuts their own paradigm known only to them (of course by the grace of God).

JoeT
 
JoeT said:
Your comment is too true. Beyond false arguments, begging questions, generalizations and Ad hominem propositions, I've found that what seems to motivate the non-Catholic is the "gotcha" question; any inconsistency will do. And, if you don't answer in the "gotcha" mode, Catholicism becomes populated by logger heads and mind numbed robots. There seems to be a motivation to disprove 2,000 years of Catholic history, Catholic worship, and Catholic theology as well as Catholic Scripture. All of which undercuts their own paradigm known only to them (of course by the grace of God).

JoeT
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In Scripture the Pharisees seemed to think the 'gotcha' questions were clever but they proved to be pretty dumb. It's astounding that any Christian would model their witness on the Pharisees.
 
JoeT said:
Your comment is too true. Beyond false arguments, begging questions, generalizations and Ad hominem propositions, I've found that what seems to motivate the non-Catholic is the "gotcha" question; any inconsistency will do. And, if you don't answer in the "gotcha" mode, Catholicism becomes populated by logger heads and mind numbed robots. There seems to be a motivation to disprove 2,000 years of Catholic history, Catholic worship, and Catholic theology as well as Catholic Scripture. All of which undercuts their own paradigm known only to them (of course by the grace of God).

JoeT
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No ad hominem is exactly what RCs are experts in, they make false argument, begging questions and got cha questions and excel in twisting the posts of others to make out they say something they didn't. They offer no evidence for their beliefs and whine about how poorly they are treated when they are not. No there is motivation to prove the truth that RCs have thrown under the bus and ignore. They prefer myths and fairy tales that come from untrustworthy sources like the POJ. They follow wolves and bad leaders and ignore the scriptures like 1 Cor 5:11 which is very clear on what should happen to such leaders. They attack posters who point out the facts and truth about their institution and the fact it does not pass the scriptural tests.

None of what is posted undercuts the grace of God. The grace of God is not given to those who do not repent and those who are not saved. The false RC claims insult Jesus. Their false claims mean that Jesus established an institution that lies and harm the sheep, that justifies murdering others, wallow in sexual sin and sacrifice children for example, prefers pagan beliefs to His. Jesus did not establish such an institution.

RCs did to stop blaming others because they have failed to prove their false beliefs are scriptural. They are lead by Pharisees that place burdens on the sheep, worse still these burdens are not scriptural. They lead by wolves who teach false doctrines.
 
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balshan said:
No ad hominem is exactly what RCs are experts in, they make false argument, begging questions and got cha questions and excel in twisting the posts of others to make out they say something they didn't. They offer no evidence for their beliefs and whine about how poorly they are treated when they are not. No there is motivation to prove the truth that RCs have thrown under the bus and ignore. They prefer myths and fairy tales that come from untrustworthy sources like the POJ. They follow wolves and bad leaders and ignore the scriptures like 1 Cor 5:11 which is very clear on what should happen to such leaders. They attack posters who point out the facts and truth about their institution and the fact it does not pass the scriptural tests.

None of what is posted undercuts the grace of God. The grace of God is not given to those who do not repent and those who are not saved. The false RC claims insult Jesus. Their false claims mean that Jesus established an institution that lies and harm the sheep, that justifies murdering others, wallow in sexual sin and sacrifice children for example, prefers pagan beliefs to His. Jesus did not establish such an institution.

RCs did to stop blaming others because they have failed to prove their false beliefs are scriptural. They are lead by Pharisees that place burdens on the sheep, worse still these burdens are not scriptural. They lead by wolves who teach false doctrines.
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Thank you for your self-refuting response.

JoeT
 
1Thess521 said:
In an effort to improve the likelihood of Catholics clearly answering direct questions: what would Catholics like to see in the posts?
Catholics; here’s your chance to improve a process.

Would you like the questions to be bolded, highlighted, capitalized, underlined, italicized with a large font, and an arrow?
Would you like examples of possible answers?
Do you prefer “yes or no” questions; or more open ended questions?

IOW: what will it take to get a direct answer to a direct question?
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Perhaps what is most needed is for the Roman Catholic's to make a sincere and honest attempt to follow in the footsteps of the Apostles when answering questions and inquiries with reference to the glory of God and the truth of the Gospel. their answers and their motivation should be transparent, reflecting their love of God and their love of the Gospel that God has revealed in Jesus Christ.
 
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Lets just not throw out random accusations. I propose we follow a direct question that just isn't being answered on this thread.
 
JoeT said:
Thank you for your self-refuting response.

JoeT
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Oh no you are the one who is a regular with making ad hominem, as your post above proves. I state facts, it is not my fault that the facts bring shame upon the RCC. You are shooting the messenger but guess what that does not and never will make the message wrong. Its actions speak the truth and we are to expose sin and the actions speak as to whether the tree is good or bad. Your tree is bad.
 
1Thess521 said:
In an effort to improve the likelihood of Catholics clearly answering direct questions: what would Catholics like to see in the posts?
Catholics; here’s your chance to improve a process.

Would you like the questions to be bolded, highlighted, capitalized, underlined, italicized with a large font, and an arrow?
Would you like examples of possible answers?
Do you prefer “yes or no” questions; or more open ended questions?

IOW: what will it take to get a direct answer to a direct question?
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I like the approach, the tenor of how a question is asked might be another worthwhile consideration. ?
 
1Thess521 said:
In an effort to improve the likelihood of Catholics clearly answering direct questions: what would Catholics like to see in the posts?
Catholics; here’s your chance to improve a process.

Would you like the questions to be bolded, highlighted, capitalized, underlined, italicized with a large font, and an arrow?
Would you like examples of possible answers?
Do you prefer “yes or no” questions; or more open ended questions?

IOW: what will it take to get a direct answer to a direct question?
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how about you give me a question, one point of discussion you have never gotten an answer to.
 
Blessings8 said:
how about you give me a question, one point of discussion you have never gotten an answer to.
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- Danger Will Robinson!

So works are optional for salvation. Works do not play any role in our salvation. We are saved for good works, not by good works. He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. (2 Tim. 1:9)
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The reality is Catholic apologists do not want to have any type of discussion about Catholic theology with those who follow Jesus. They know they cannot defend the indefensible bad theology from the Catholic Church against God's Word. That is why they divert and attempt to fog the dialogue.

Also, whenever Catholic apologists demand *proof*, they are truly not interested in any proof. Why would they? When one already believes they belong to the self-proclaimed One True Church, all proof will immediately be dismissed, usually making up the proof is merely one's own personal opinion.

Catholicism is like bologna. It goes down best unexamined.
 
Blessings8 said:
how about you give me a question, one point of discussion you have never gotten an answer to.
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- Are there any words more authoritative than the words of God?

Hear we go again an RC complaining and making out we do not understand. We get it and you have failed to confront the scriptures that show your interpretation is wrong. You just ignore the verses and do not answer questions asked. If you are so right prove it. You are the one that post your...
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