Do the "elect", "chosen” or “choice” ones of God know who they are?

TheTruth

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Do the "elect", "chosen” or “choice” ones of God know that they have been “chosen”?

Many are called, but few are chosen.
“So the last shall be first, and the first last, for many are called, and few chosen.” (Matthew 20:16)​
“For many are called, but few are chosen.” (Matthew 22:14)​

The Bible reveals that darkest hours will be shortened for the sake of the “chosen”.

And if those days were not shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the chosen, shall those days be shortened. (Matthew 24:22)​
and if the Lord did not shorten the days, no flesh had been saved; but because of the chosen, whom He did choose to Himself, He did shorten the days. (Mark 13:20)​

The great deception just prior to Jesus Coming will become so great, even the chosen would be deceived if it were possible.

for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and they shall give great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, also the chosen. (Matthew 24:24)​
for there shall rise false Christs and false prophets, and they shall give signs and wonders, to seduce, if possible, also the chosen; (Mark 13:22)​
Satan targets the elect with “false Christs” and “false prophets,” who come in God’s name. And the deception is complete with signs and wonders designed to fool even God’s chosen in order to “to seduce, if possible”.​

The chosen “shall gather together” just before the outpouring of God's wrath.

and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof. (Matthew 24:31)​
and then he shall send his messengers, and gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the end of the earth unto the end of heaven. (Mark 13:27)​

God will vindicate the chosen.

And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? (Luke 18:7)​

Jesus Christ is the “choice” of God.

Wherefore, also, it is contained in the Writing: `Lo, I lay in Zion a chief corner-stone, choice, precious, and he who is believing on him may not be put to shame;' (1 Peter 2:6)​

The Bible refers to Jesus as “choice.” He is our example and provides the pattern for knowing God.​

Who can bring a charge against God's chosen.

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. (Romans 8:33)​

God's chosen will rest in the knowledge that their faith in Jesus has redeemed them from eternal damnation, regardless of what men think or say.​

Paul's ministry to the chosen.

because of this all things do I endure, because of the choice ones, that they also salvation may obtain that [is] in Christ Jesus, with glory age-during. (2 Timothy 2:10)​
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; (Titus 1:1)​

The “Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father”.

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. (1 Peter 1:1,2)​
All who have been chosen by God have been foreknown by Him and have been sanctified by the power of God’s Spirit.​

A chosen generation, a royal priesthood” that “should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light”.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. (1 Peter 2:9,10)​

The chosen will with Christ Jesus defeat those who “make war with the Lamb”.

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. (Revelation 17:14)​
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. (Eph. 1:3–10)​
 
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Simpletruther

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Do the "elect", "chosen” or “choice” ones of God know that they have been “chosen”?

Many are called, but few are chosen.
“So the last shall be first, and the first last, for many are called, and few chosen.” (Matthew 20:16)​
“For many are called, but few are chosen.” (Matthew 22:14)​

The Bible reveals that darkest hours will be shortened for the sake of the “chosen”.

And if those days were not shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the chosen, shall those days be shortened. (Matthew 24:22)​
and if the Lord did not shorten the days, no flesh had been saved; but because of the chosen, whom He did choose to Himself, He did shorten the days. (Mark 13:20)​

The great deception just prior to Jesus Coming will become so great, even the chosen would be deceived if it were possible.

for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and they shall give great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, also the chosen. (Matthew 24:24)​
for there shall rise false Christs and false prophets, and they shall give signs and wonders, to seduce, if possible, also the chosen; (Mark 13:22)​
Satan targets the elect with “false Christs” and “false prophets,” who come in God’s name. And the deception is complete with signs and wonders designed to fool even God’s chosen in order to “to seduce, if possible”.​

The chosen “shall gather together” just before the outpouring of God's wrath.

and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof. (Matthew 24:31)​
and then he shall send his messengers, and gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the end of the earth unto the end of heaven. (Mark 13:27)​

God will vindicate the chosen.

And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? (Luke 18:7)​

Jesus Christ is the “choice” of God.

Wherefore, also, it is contained in the Writing: `Lo, I lay in Zion a chief corner-stone, choice, precious, and he who is believing on him may not be put to shame;' (1 Peter 2:6)​

The Bible refers to Jesus as “choice.” He is our example and provides the pattern for knowing God.​

Who can bring a charge against God's chosen.

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. (Romans 8:33)​

God's chosen will rest in the knowledge that their faith in Jesus has redeemed them from eternal damnation, regardless of what men think or say.​

Paul's ministry to the chosen.

because of this all things do I endure, because of the choice ones, that they also salvation may obtain that [is] in Christ Jesus, with glory age-during. (2 Timothy 2:10)​
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; (Titus 1:1)​

The “Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father”.

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. (1 Peter 1:1,2)​
All who have been chosen by God have been foreknown by Him and have been sanctified by the power of God’s Spirit.​

A chosen generation, a royal priesthood” that “should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light”.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. (1 Peter 2:9,10)​

The chosen will with Christ Jesus defeat those who “make war with the Lamb”.

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. (Revelation 17:14)​
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. (Eph. 1:3–10)​
Some of us know.
 

Chalcedon

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What do you "know", do you have knowledge of God that other believers don't have?
The Bible / God assures us that we can KNOW we have eternal life now. It’s a promise . It’s called assurance of one’s salvation . One cannot be saved unless they are chosen/ elect / predestined as Roman’s chapter 8 declares . And those who are predestined , called , chosen cannot be separated from the love of Christ . It’s called security in Christ and it’s eternal .

hope this helps !!!
 
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TibiasDad

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Do the "elect", "chosen” or “choice” ones of God know that they have been “chosen”?

Many are called, but few are chosen.
“So the last shall be first, and the first last, for many are called, and few chosen.” (Matthew 20:16)​
“For many are called, but few are chosen.” (Matthew 22:14)​

The Bible reveals that darkest hours will be shortened for the sake of the “chosen”.

And if those days were not shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the chosen, shall those days be shortened. (Matthew 24:22)​
and if the Lord did not shorten the days, no flesh had been saved; but because of the chosen, whom He did choose to Himself, He did shorten the days. (Mark 13:20)​

The great deception just prior to Jesus Coming will become so great, even the chosen would be deceived if it were possible.

for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and they shall give great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, also the chosen. (Matthew 24:24)​
for there shall rise false Christs and false prophets, and they shall give signs and wonders, to seduce, if possible, also the chosen; (Mark 13:22)​
Satan targets the elect with “false Christs” and “false prophets,” who come in God’s name. And the deception is complete with signs and wonders designed to fool even God’s chosen in order to “to seduce, if possible”.​

The chosen “shall gather together” just before the outpouring of God's wrath.

and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof. (Matthew 24:31)​
and then he shall send his messengers, and gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the end of the earth unto the end of heaven. (Mark 13:27)​

God will vindicate the chosen.

And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? (Luke 18:7)​

Jesus Christ is the “choice” of God.

Wherefore, also, it is contained in the Writing: `Lo, I lay in Zion a chief corner-stone, choice, precious, and he who is believing on him may not be put to shame;' (1 Peter 2:6)​

The Bible refers to Jesus as “choice.” He is our example and provides the pattern for knowing God.​

Who can bring a charge against God's chosen.

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. (Romans 8:33)​

God's chosen will rest in the knowledge that their faith in Jesus has redeemed them from eternal damnation, regardless of what men think or say.​

Paul's ministry to the chosen.

because of this all things do I endure, because of the choice ones, that they also salvation may obtain that [is] in Christ Jesus, with glory age-during. (2 Timothy 2:10)​
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; (Titus 1:1)​

The “Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father”.

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. (1 Peter 1:1,2)​
All who have been chosen by God have been foreknown by Him and have been sanctified by the power of God’s Spirit.​

A chosen generation, a royal priesthood” that “should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light”.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. (1 Peter 2:9,10)​

The chosen will with Christ Jesus defeat those who “make war with the Lamb”.

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. (Revelation 17:14)​
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. (Eph. 1:3–10)​
John 3:36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life. The one who rejects the Son will not see life, but God's wrath remains on him.

Anyone actively believing, and thereby are obeying Christ’s commands, knows they are elect!

Doug
 

fltom

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John 3:36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life. The one who rejects the Son will not see life, but God's wrath remains on him.

Anyone actively believing, and thereby are obeying Christ’s commands, knows they are elect!

Doug
Indeed

Ephesians 1:4
4 According as he hath chosen us (believers) in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
 

Dizerner

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Lots of believers can doubt their salvation or not know they are something called "elect."

When Christians first encounter Calvinism they can sometimes be taken aback because they never really even considered election deeply and they become very intimated at how systematic it all feels and by ideas about why in particular some are not saved that they never realized.

Other believers fear that maybe they just only think they are Christians and maybe they're not good enough or God did not really intend them to end up being a believer, and some struggle with the idea they might be a vessel of wrath just manifesting temporary fruit.

Something ever true believer knows—is that they feel a love and a drawing towards the Person of Christ and a desire to glorify him.
 

fltom

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Lots of believers can doubt their salvation or not know they are something called "elect."

When Christians first encounter Calvinism they can sometimes be taken aback because they never really even considered election deeply and they become very intimated at how systematic it all feels and by ideas about why in particular some are not saved that they never realized.

If they know their bible well they know the bible never speaks of unconditional election to salvation and that there is election to service, calling and position

Israel as a nation was called to service

Paul was called to be an apostle

All believers are included in Christ (position)
 

Reformedguy

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If they know their bible well they know the bible never speaks of unconditional election to salvation and that there is election to service, calling and position

Israel as a nation was called to service

Paul was called to be an apostle

All believers are included in Christ (position)
From the foundation of the world?
 

fltom

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Read Ephesians and get back to me. What would be the difference between from or before? This ought to be good
Time

From indicates things happened in time

Eph 1:4

does not help you

That election is in Christ

for which faith is required

Ephesians 1:13 (NASB77)
13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-- having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
 

Reformedguy

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'Time

From indicates things happened in time

Eph 1:4

does not help you

That election is in Christ

for which faith is required

Ephesians 1:13 (NASB77)
13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-- having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
God exisits outside of time.

"For He chose us in Him from the foundation of the world"

Nowhere does it say faith is required to be in Christ
 

fltom

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God exisits outside of time.

"For He chose us in Him from the foundation of the world"

Nowhere does it say faith is required to be in Christ
Read and stop denying scripture

Ephesians 1:13 (KJV)
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

sealed in Christ after ye believed
 

Reformedguy

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Read and stop denying scripture

Ephesians 1:13 (KJV)
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

sealed in Christ after ye believed
The word of truth you need to understand by the Sprit? 1 Corin. 2:10-14?
 
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