Do the "elect", "chosen” or “choice” ones of God know who they are?

Reformedguy

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Time is the passing of Motion. Space and Time are the same thing known as SpaceTime. The Creation of Space was also the Creation of Time...

Scientifically speaking...
Also if every action has a reaction time had a beginning. God is eternal and has no beginning. He is the first cause. The first action so to speak. He set it all in motion. It's the ole atheist question. Who created God?
 

fltom

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Where did I say 1 Corinthians 2 is exclusively dealing with unbelievers believers fabricater?

Why did you post the verse in Psalms saying the Earth had been given to us? What was the point?
Never used the word exclusive why are you using deceit
 

fltom

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Deflection. Back up your claim fabricater

You claimed I said, how's that, that 1 Corinthians 2 was about unbelievers alone.
Wrong I have posted probably a dozen times now that I was not speaking of exclusivity

and reported you claim unbelievers are given the spirit to become believers

and noted

1 Corinthians 2:10-12 (KJV)
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
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does not speak of unbelievers

unbelievers do not receive the spirit
 

fltom

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And i will post as far back as this conversation can go
fltom said:
No its your bad habit

Your have stated numerous times it is only by the holy spirit men can know

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

well those verses are not concerning unbelievers
You see there is nothing there about exclusivity

and that sentence

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

denies exclusivity

stop your game playing

now where did I claim it is only unbelievers
 
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Reformedguy

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And i will post as far back as this conversation can go

You see there is nothing there about exclusivity

and that sentence

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

denies exclusivity

stop your game playing

now where did I claim it is only unbelievers
Fabricater, where did I say it's just about unbelievers?? Quote me
 

fltom

Well-known member
You didn't. You said I claimed that fabricater. So quote me.
Do you read ?


i have posted as far back as this conversation can go
fltom said:
No its your bad habit

Your have stated numerous times it is only by the holy spirit men can know

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

well those verses are not concerning unbelievers
You see there is nothing there about exclusivity

and that sentence

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well


denies exclusivity


stop your game playing

now where did I claim it is only unbelievers

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

denies exclusivity

stop your game playing

now where did I claim it is only unbelievers
 

Reformedguy

Well-known member
Do you read ?


i have posted as far back as this conversation can go

You see there is nothing there about exclusivity

and that sentence

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well


denies exclusivity

stop your game playing

now where did I claim it is only unbelievers

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

denies exclusivity

stop your game playing

now where did I claim it is only unbelievers
You didn't. That was your claim about me. Quote me fabricater
 

fltom

Well-known member
You didn't. That was your claim about me. Quote me fabricater
Nowhere did i claim you stated it is only unbelievers

read

Do you read ?


i have posted as far back as this conversation can go

You see there is nothing there about exclusivity

and that sentence

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

denies exclusivity

stop your game playing

now where did I claim it is only unbelievers

therefore that applies to unbelievers as well

denies exclusivity

stop your game playing

now where did I claim you stated it is only unbelievers
 

fltom

Well-known member
Lol, where did I say it was only about unbelievers ? Fabricater
Where did i say that you claimed it was only unbelievers

The facts you have affirmed

1 unbelievers receive the spirit so as to believe

2 Unbelivers know the things freely given to them by the spirit


which in the context of the passage refers to to believers having received the spirit

You are unbiblical in both instances
 

Reformedguy

Well-known member
Where did i say that you claimed it was only unbelievers

The facts you have affirmed

1 unbelievers receive the spirit so as to believe

2 Unbelivers know the things freely given to them by the spirit


which in the context of the passage refers to to believers having received the spirit

You are unbiblical in both instances
Where did I say it was only referring to unbelievers fabricator? I will just keep asking
 

Reformedguy

Well-known member
And i will note what I stated

You claimed unbelievers are given the spirit to become unbelievers

and you argue based upon a verse which speaks of believers receiving the spirit

so that they may know the things that are given to them by god as though it refered to unbelievers

twisting context and scripture and Fabricating
Where did I say 1 Corinthians 2 was soley about unbelievers?
 

fltom

Well-known member
Where did I say 1 Corinthians 2 was soley about unbelievers?
This is what I claim

And i will note what I stated

You claimed unbelievers are given the spirit to become unbelievers

and you argue based upon a verse which speaks of believers receiving the spirit

so that they may know the things that are given to them by god as though it refered to unbelievers


what can you deny
 

David1701

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OK, show us where God created time... and show us where God created cars. You are using scripture out of context. And what are the rules of time that you are referring to? If Gos is not subject to time why did he wait until the fulness of time to send his son?
Galatians 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Anything that begins...

If you have not exercised faith, you have not been chosen... You are not applying the context of the passage to your claims...Believers are required to do certain things to make their calling and election sure...
2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
To demonstrate that they have been called and elected, not to produce that calling and election!
 

Newbirth

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To demonstrate that they have been called and elected, not to produce that calling and election!
demonstrate to whom? Read the text slowly... It is not for demonstration purposes... it is so that you shall not fall...
2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
 
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