I do not believe it is unreasonable for you to walk through James chapter 2 as I have, to show or prove your application of His words as being correct. That is why I said you addressed that chapter in according to your belief rather than walking it through from verse 1 for what James was talking about and how he was rebuking that church for.... the mistreatment of the poor and for using faith in God's Providence to get out of helping the poor.Deleted the parts where you dismissed what I said by saying "well that's your belief." If I said that every time you posted substance, this conversation wouldn't go anywhere.
So yes, the discussion is not going anywhere because it is your fault.
I believe Jesus was differentiating between the two kinds of entering the kingdom of God by how they were born as in verse 6. which the former was by natural birth as being different from how one is born again of the Spirit.No. Jesus is not referring to physical birth in this passage. He is talking about rebirth and only rebirth. Nicodemus understood that it was about rebirth, but was confused because he thought Jesus was talking about physical rebirth which is not physically possible. Jesus, in talking only about rebirth speaks of rebirth of water and spirit.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Only if you follow church teachings in how they apply His words rather than what Jesus actually meant in leaning on Him to be your Good Shepherd since we are to prove everything by Him, no matter if it be your church, your favorite teacher or leader, or me or even you in your studies. That iron sharpen iron does not negate anyone since we are not all perfect and still growing in the Lord, but our confirmation has to come from Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit in us.Condescending ad hominem.
1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.....26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
The Lord helped see the errors that my Covenant United Presbyterian church had taught me. He helped me to see the errors of Liberty Home Bible Institute tried to teach me. He helps me to see the errors or assumptions I have made regarding truth in His words in seeing the Book of Enoch as a fraud. He helps me to see the evolution theory as a false science, not just by the definitions of real science and the basis for a valid scientific theory, and the laws of science, but by His words as well.
So I am open to correction by the scripture but He helps me to see that when people do not hear or see reproof, it ma be because they do not want to believe their church is wrong in that regard. New born babes will be pruned to bear more fruit and since we are not perfect yet, we should be open to more pruning by Him to bear more fruit in being His disciples so that our joy may be full. The consequence for resisting reproof is to cease abiding in Him and be at risk of being left behind for not being ready only to be resurrected after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House.
John 15:1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Since we all should go to the Lord for help to see the truth in any discussion... and we should pray for one another that He will prove this too.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. 25 Brethren, pray for us.