Does the Baptism of the Holy Spirit..save ?

Truther

Well-known member
Yes. I was saved and then water baptized.

I also obey the COMMAND to (1) partake of the Lord's Supper, and (2) pray in the name of Jesus, and (3) etc. etc.
Were you baptized in the verbally spoken, name of Jesus, or the titles?
 

Truther

Well-known member
You are confused.

I obeyed the command to be water baptized after I was saved.
Like this?....

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.
 

Truther

Well-known member
Fred, you need to be rebaptized this way...


4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
 

Truther

Well-known member
You need to be saved.
Like this?...

37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins
...
 

Fred

Well-known member
Like this?...

37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins
...

Nope. That doesn't apply to those in Acts 10.

The gift of the Holy Spirit was received (Acts 10:45) BEFORE their water baptism (Acts 10:48).
 

Truther

Well-known member
Quote Matthew 28:19.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


What is the son's name?...

A...Jeff.

B...George.

C...Son.

D...Jesus.

Pick one.
 

Fred

Well-known member
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


What is the son's name?...

A...Jeff.

B...George.

C...Son.

D...Jesus.

Pick one.

No. I don't have to answer questions from heretics.

You believe water baptism is necessary for your salvation which proves you are not saved.
 

Truther

Well-known member
Nope. That doesn't apply to those in Acts 10.

The gift of the Holy Spirit was received (Acts 10:45) BEFORE their water baptism (Acts 10:48).
So, Peter was wrong for commanding them to be baptized in the name of Jesus?

Should he have mildly suggested it in a year or 2 instead?
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Nope, "Pete" said this....

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins....


...which you openly refuse to do.
Show me several verses that explain how water baptism cancelles the debt of sin.
 

Truther

Well-known member
No. I don't have to answer questions from heretics.

You believe water baptism is necessary for your salvation which proves you are not saved.
Jesus is a heretic?...

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved....

Peter is a heretic?....

The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...
 

CrowCross

Super Member
So, Peter was wrong for commanding them to be baptized in the name of Jesus?

Should he have mildly suggested it in a year or 2 instead?
If baptism is required for salvation...why is there not a chapter or two on why and how to baptize?
 

Truther

Well-known member
Show me several verses that explain how water baptism cancelles the debt of sin.
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,...

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved...
 
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