Does the morning-after-pill count as abortion?

[Temujin]

Great - then we agree that the morality of abortion is a matter of opinion.

Talking of opinion...

Letter: Fetus becomes a human only after the first breath

Any law that punishes real human beings for an abortion of something that cannot breathe is not justice but oppression, in my opinion.

www.stltoday.com

A Christian quoting the Bible no less.

 

[BMS]

Talking of opinion...

Letter: Fetus becomes a human only after the first breath

Any law that punishes real human beings for an abortion of something that cannot breathe is not justice but oppression, in my opinion.

www.stltoday.com

A Christian quoting the Bible no less.

Which verses is he proposing to have 'interpreted'?

 

[Temujin]

Which verses is he proposing to have 'interpreted'?

Click on the link and find out. It's only a minute long. Personally I don't much care. I simply share this to dispel any lingering doubts that all Christians are on one side in this issue.

 

[BMS]

Click on the link and find out. It's only a minute long. Personally I don't much care. I simply share this to dispel any lingering doubts that all Christians are on one side in this issue.

Did so and it doesnt tell us, that is why I asked. Its the Bible that tells us not what this person or that person claims. Woke group identity doesnt work, you know that full well.

 

[Temujin]

Did so and it doesnt tell us, that is why I asked. Its the Bible that tells us not what this person or that person claims. Woke group identity doesnt work, you know that full well.

It seems that it is Christian group identity that doesn't work.

 

[BMS]

It seems that it is Christian group identity that doesn't work.

No group identity is and you know full well. Ie to use the ideology, the gays and lesbians of LGB Alliance are transphobic and the gays ans lesbians of LGBTqi+ Stonewall are homphobic.... as they say of each other.

 

[Temujin]

No group identity is and you know full well. Ie to use the ideology, the gays and lesbians of LGB Alliance are transphobic and the gays ans lesbians of LGBTqi+ Stonewall are homphobic.... as they say of each other.

And?

 

[BMS]

And?

And so group identity doesn't work. How do you know who is telling the truth and who is telling lies, or whether its disputable?

 

[Temujin]

And so group identity doesn't work. How do you know who is telling the truth and who is telling lies, or whether its disputable?

How about making up your own mind, like adults do?

 

[BMS]

How about making up your own mind, like adults do?

How about making up your mind by evidence and reasoning about what exists rather than your own feelings?
... like rational adults do.

So back to the question, HOW do you tell who is telling the truth and who is lying?

 

[BMS]

Really encouraging news item on Sky this morning. Presented a mother who had been persuaded by pro life people outside an abortion clinic not to abort, has a wonderful daughter and realised in retrospect that all the support she had when facing the pregnancy she had not planned for, was simply being given the phone number of Marie Stopes.
Another doctor was pointing out that people in the UK are in support of abortion, are generally not happy with the time limits for abortion, how easy it is to get an abortion, and that abortion is available up until birth for disablity that includes Downs and cleft palate.

 

[BMS]

In fact here is the news item

Both the value of the Abortion Act 1967, and the current abuse of it and lack of enforcement of the law, brought into focus.

 

[JPower]

It’s still abortion.
There’s no if’s or but’s here.
A fully chromosomal individual has been terminated, not half - which is contraception.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

It’s still abortion.
There’s no if’s or but’s here.
A fully chromosomal individual has been terminated, not half - which is contraception.

Ok. Our little daughter was born with all her oocytes at birth. Under abortion word games, every month every egg that doesn't become fertilized is a miscarriage.

 

[JPower]

Ok. Our little daughter was born with all her oocytes at birth. Under abortion word games, every month every egg that doesn't become fertilized is a miscarriage.

Um no, it’s called a period.
I am the father of a daughter myself.
Shedding half chromosome eggs is not an abortion, full chromosomes is.

 

[Temujin]

Ok. Our little daughter was born with all her oocytes at birth. Under abortion word games, every month every egg that doesn't become fertilized is a miscarriage.

Thanks for once again demonstrating your unfamiliarity with common English words. Someone who claims medical qualifications but doesn't know the difference between menstruation and miscarriage, is obviously a complete fraud. Your efforts in googling the word "oocytes" were wasted.

 

[BMS]

Thanks for once again demonstrating your unfamiliarity with common English words. Someone who claims medical qualifications but doesn't know the difference between menstruation and miscarriage, is obviously a complete fraud. Your efforts in googling the word "oocytes" were wasted.

From someone who cant tell the difference between male and female by changing the meanings of words, a hardly credibe response

 

[BMS]

edit

Yes I think I agree with you that before fertilization its probably not abortion. But killing the offspring is what people call terminating the pregnancy.

 

[Temujin]

Yes I think I agree with you that before fertilization its probably not abortion. But killing the offspring is what people call terminating the pregnancy.

The "person" you are agreeing with is a vendor selling abortion pills on line.

 

[BMS]

The "person" you are agreeing with is a vendor selling abortion pills on line.

The truth is not changed by who says it. Before fertilization I would say its arguably not abortion.

Sadly there are plenty of people who sell stuff they shouldnt

Transgender children GP: Helen Webberley suspended for misconduct

Dr Helen Webberley put child transgender patients at "unwarranted risk of harm," a tribunal finds.

www.bbc.com