Dueteronomy 29: 3,4

Reformedguy

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In this verse It is clearly God who gives a mind to understand, ears to hear, and eyes to see. In verse 3 they saw signs and great wonders and trials but did not understand until God acted.
 

ReverendRV

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In this verse It is clearly God who gives a mind to understand, ears to hear, and eyes to see. In verse 3 they saw signs and great wonders and trials but did not understand until God acted.
Yes; this Age-Old argument is about "Cause and Effect"...

Much to do about people committing the Logical Fallacy of Making Category Mistakes...
 
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ReverendRV

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I know. Sorry, got a little ahead of myself.
Deuteronomy 29:3+4 NIV; With your own eyes you saw those great trials, those signs and great wonders. But to this day the Lord has not given you a mind that understands or eyes that see or ears that hear.

God initiates! Cause and Effect!! Irresistible Grace!!!
 

preacher4truth

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In this verse It is clearly God who gives a mind to understand, ears to hear, and eyes to see. In verse 3 they saw signs and great wonders and trials but did not understand until God acted.
"But what is really happening in the verse is that God is telling them He didn't give this to them, it was something they did and had in their own ability. After all Jesus said; "No, one can come to me." in John 6:65." :rolleyes:

Sound familiar, brethren? That's basically what you're going to get.
 

Predestined

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But wait...there's more:eek:

You have versus 10 – 21 with some Divine wrath falling on those who flatter themselves in their wickedness and arrogance.

The national covenant made with Israel, not only typified the covenant of grace made with true believers, but also represented the outward dispensation of the gospel. Those who have been enabled to consent to the Lord’s new covenant of mercy and grace in Jesus Christ, and to give up themselves to be his people, should embrace every opportunity of renewing their open profession of relation to him, and their obligation to him, as the God of salvation, walking according thereto.

The sinner is described as one whose heart turns away from his God; there the mischief begins, in the evil heart of unbelief, which inclines men to depart from the living God to dead idols. Even to this sin men are now tempted, when drawn aside by their own lusts and fancies. Such men are roots that bear gall and wormwood. They are weeds which, if let alone, overspread the whole field. Satan may for a time disguise this bitter morsel, so that thou shalt not have the natural taste of it, but at the last day, if not before, the true taste shall be discerned.

Notice the sinner’s security in sin. Though he hears the words of the curse, yet even then he thinks himself safe from the wrath of God. There is scarcely a threatening in all the book of God more dreadful than this. Oh that presumptuous sinners would read it, and tremble! for it is a real declaration of the wrath of God, against ungodliness and unrighteousness of man. --- Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary
 
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