Election

[Theo1689]

Sigh...

Even your requested expert tells you otherwise; but nothing matters...

I've been watching YT videos of SovCits ("Sovereign Citizens") who hassle cops whenever they get pulled over:
1) They'll argue with the cop, disobeying every command, and constantly asking questions to try to control the interaction;
2) They'll demand to talk to their superior;
3) They'll argue with the superior, doing all the same things as with the original cop.
4) They proudly proclaim that the cops are going to lose their jobs and their houses when he sues them.
5) He then argues with the court judge until he gets thrown in jail.

Always posturing as if the "more expert" will agree with them, but never accepting anything they say.

Any idea why I'm sharing this?

 

[Carbon]

Any idea why I'm sharing this?

Because you really enjoyed the show and couldn't wait to tell everyone?

 

[Sethproton]

Where did he go ?

I got banned for a while. I am back

 

[Carbon]

I got banned for a while. I am back

Welcome back Seth. 🖐

 

[ReverendRV]

I think you may be the second person I have seen in this forum who is thinking along the same lines as i am. we may have some differences, but I don't think the different bodies they saw post resurrection were His real resurrected body. I assume that body would be invisible to people on earth.

I asked Roger what he would do if you agreed with him on this point but not the other point, why should you not trust him both times; and could he show you why he's right. He said he could. I wonder what he will think about you when you won't?

 

[guest1]

I got banned for a while. I am back

same here a week vacation.

 

[ReverendRV]

same here a week vacation.

Maybe y'all should stop reporting each other 😂

 

[guest1]

Maybe y'all should stop reporting each other 😂

tru dat

 

[Sethproton]

They both come to scripture with a preconceived idea and try and make scripture conform to their false premise. There is no objectivity only bias.

You speak without knowledge. I came to scripture already believing the way you believe because that was what i was taught. But as I read and studied scripture, it was the scripture itself that forced me to change my doctrine.
If someone is interested at all in truth, they will not intentionally misrepresent people in order to make their point.

 

[Sethproton]

There's no grammatical reason I can see to separate anthropos as somehow past tense... it really seems quite bizarre, it's defining the mediator.

for one is God, one also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus, (1Ti 2:5 YLT)

Paul seems in fact to be emphasizing that the mediator is one of the mediated.

I would say in this case the mediator is both of the mediated. Jesus was man and God, and therefore could represent both sides in mediation.

 

[Sethproton]

Those Denominations don't; but he admits he's totally different from his Church. Why would someone so against most everything a Church teaches, become a Member there?

So much misinformation. It is easy to watch here and see why people are so confused. I never even once said in these forums that I disagree with anything my pastor teaches. This explains why people here have such a hard time grasping truth

 

[Sethproton]

Are we sure a Biblical definition of man necessitates flesh and blood?

That is a worthy question to search out. My feeling at the moment is that is the flesh and blood that identifies us as human. Without them, after we die, I wonder if we are still considered human. I know we are the sons of God, but my feeling currently is that humanity will cease to exist

 

[Theo1689]

So much misinformation. It is easy to watch here and see why people are so confused. I never even once said in these forums that I disagree with anything my pastor teaches. This explains why people here have such a hard time grasping truth

So you become a Calvinist on Sundays, and an anti-Calvinist the rest of the week?

 

[Sethproton]

Born into it or likes a girl or married into it?

BTW, have you seen the poll that the majority of Christians in the US believe Jesus was created? I cannot remember the exact verbiage.

Not that it will help you, but I do attend a reformed church, and it espouses none of the radical calvinist doctrines that are posited here.
But, I am at odds with my pastor in some of my beliefs, yet he has never tried to force those calvinist ideas on the church.
I don't know why, but you would never peg him as a Calvinist if you heard him preach

 

[Theo1689]

I never even once said in these forums that I disagree with anything my pastor teaches.

But, I am at odds with my pastor in some of my beliefs,

Why do you even try, Seth?
You know you always get caught....

 

[guest1]

Not that it will help you, but I do attend a reformed church, and it espouses none of the radical calvinist doctrines that are posited here.
But, I am at odds with my pastor in some of my beliefs, yet he has never tried to force those calvinist ideas on the church.
I don't know why, but you would never peg him as a Calvinist if you heard him preach

No one knows that about me either until we discuss a specific passage and exegete it and I’ll bet a million dollars if your pastor expository preached through Ephesians 1-2 you would here the exact same thing as you do here . My Arminian pastor preaching Ephesians 1 was honest with the text and agreed with Calvinists .

So much for your assumptions seth.

 

[Sethproton]

If Predestination is immutable and the same are called then all who are called must be chosen.

But many are called and few are chosen. - Mt 22.

So unless you can provide specific grammatical proof to the contrary I must reject your analysis as flawed.

yes, in Jesus' statement, the chosen had been called, They were just part of the whole who were called.

 

[Roger Thornhill]

I asked Roger what he would do if you agreed with him on this point but not the other point, why should you not trust him both times; and could he show you why he's right. He said he could. I wonder what he will think about you when you won't?

Didn't you know he has free will?

 

[Sethproton]

Why do you even try, Seth?
You know you always get caught....

I keep thinking you should learn to read posts for content instead of just looking for something you think you can criticize

 

[Theo1689]

I keep thinking you should learn to read posts for content instead of just looking for something you think you can criticize

I got multiple positive reactions to my post.
It seems I understood the "content" just fine.
The fact that you didn't elaborate proves it.