Election is before the foundation of the world in Christ. Eph 1 4. Men didn't exist physically. They had no being or will.
Those same ones were Chosen in Christ Jesus before the foundation of the world Eph 1 4did someone snatch them away
Eph. 2:12 —ESV
“remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.”
How did they get awayThose same ones were Chosen in Christ Jesus before the foundation of the world Eph 1 4
Why not prove God's unconditional elect before the foundation of the world are not also **because** of Libertarian faith rather than just leaving half the Bible out? (You will of course leave half the Bible out). You lose.Correct. The Elect had no will, no being before the foundation of the world when they were Chosen in Christ. So it was unconditional.
It's proven by default since the election was made by God before the foundation of the world before He made them into existence. There's nothing for Him to see them do if they don't exist to do anything.Why not prove God's unconditional elect before the foundation of the world are not also **because** of Libertarian faith rather than just leaving half the Bible out? (You will of course leave half the Bible out). You lose.
Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? **Because** they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
God revealed the mystery to the other Apostles Eph 3:4-5That is the mystery revealed and implemented in time. Paul was not even saved until AD 37. He was made particularly the apostle to the gentiles and trained by God by means of special revelation. This means he understood things about the church the other apostles did not know.
So by reading men may understand ?Jds
God revealed the mystery to the other Apostles Eph 3:4-5
Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
The natural man cannot receive and understand the things of the Spirit of God 1 Cor 2 14. The Gospel is hidden from the lost 2 Cor 4:3-4So by reading men may understand ?
John seems to think so
John 20:31 —ESV
“but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.”
So does Paul
2 Tim. 3:15 —ESV
“and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.”