Election

[brightfame52]

Why not answer the question instead of asking for a thread to be created over it? It's way easier to simply answer.

Because that is the way I would like for it to be.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Start a thread on it.

Just answer the question if you would. Why duck, dodge, and hide from answering a simple question.

Okay, let’s cut to the chase. Are there two salvations. One temporal that can be forfeited, and one eternal that the elect can’t lose?

 

[preacher4truth]

Yes some are. The ones I have publically made known I'm willing to discuss.

Which means you haven't been open publicly as you've pretended to be and you are hiding what you believe.

 

[brightfame52]

Just answer the question if you would. Why duck, dodge, and hide from answering a simple question.

Okay, let’s cut to the chase. Are there two salvations. One temporal that can be forfeited, and one eternal that the elect can’t lose?

Do you want to discuss Election?

 

[brightfame52]

Which means you haven't been open publicly as you've pretended to be and you are hiding what you believe.

Read my threads, I have been very open on what I believe.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Do you want to discuss Election?

This ties into election. Why dodge answering our questions? What are you afraid of? Ask myself and/or @preacher4truth any question you wish, and we will gladly answer them.

 

[preacher4truth]

I've never met a person that was a professing Christian that refused to share their beliefs. Only charlatans and cults hide their true beliefs.

 

[preacher4truth]

Read my threads, I have been very open on what I believe.

I don't read all you say, but I know you're not open, in fact you're a false teacher, one seeking to draw others after himself.

 

[brightfame52]

This ties into election. Why dodge answering our questions? What are you afraid of? Ask myself and/or @preacher4truth any question you wish, and we will gladly answer them.

Why not start a thread for each question? That way you can have a permanent record of my comments. You can also always look to what I have already posted here publically .

 

[brightfame52]

I've never met a person that was a professing Christian that refused to share their beliefs. Only charlatans and cults hide their true beliefs.

I have shared my beliefs, read my comments and threads here on this site. I have shared more than you realize.

 

[preacher4truth]

This ties into election. Why dodge answering our questions? What are you afraid of? Ask myself and/or @preacher4truth any question you wish, and we will gladly answer them.

I already know what he believes, I only want him to plainly state it. He knows he'll be exposed and refuted, so he dodges, hoping to draw someone in and deceive them first, so he doesn't want to be exposed. Things that hide do not like light. He's seeking disciples after himself.

 

[brightfame52]

I already know what he believes, I only want him to plainly state it. He knows he'll be exposed and refuted, so he dodges, hoping to draw someone in and deceive them first, so he doesn't want to be exposed. Things that hide do not like light. He's seeking disciples after himself.

If you know what I believe then you have not been honest here. Also if you know what I believe how did you find out if it was not from something I publically posted?

 

[preacher4truth]

If you know what I believe then you have not been honest here. Also if you know what I believe how did you find out if it was not from something I publically posted?

First off I'm not dishonest but have been quite open on all things, answering directly without hiding or deflection.

You can't say the same for yourself.

Secondly I've refuted your false accusations on Calvinists saying they don't believe in justification by faith in Christ alone. Your retort couldn't deal with the facts of your being refuted, so, as you do with scripture you snipped a quote of my response and took it out of context and deceived yourself like you answered me.

No, you didn't.

Lastly I know what you teach because I've dealt with Primitive Baptist heresy in the past and know what you truly believe and know you're one timorous PB who is afraid to be open about your false gospel.

 

[TomFL]

If you know what I believe then you have not been honest here. Also if you know what I believe how did you find out if it was not from something I publically posted?

So why are you so loathe to confirm what it appears you believe

Have the courage of your convictions

 

[brightfame52]

So why are you so loathe to confirm what it appears you believe

Have the courage of your convictions

Read what I publically posted.

 

[TomFL]

Read what I publically posted.

I did

and wanted your confirmation

In a cut and paste something may have been inadvertently stated that differs from a poster's view

That is why it is good to seek confirmation

Also a statement may have been made without really thinking out all of its ramifications

so again it is good to question

Finally in the light of objections a poster may realize that is not what he really wants to hold

so again it is good to question

 

[brightfame52]

I did

and wanted your confirmation

In a cut and paste something may have been inadvertently stated that differs from a poster's view

That is why it is good to seek confirmation

Also a statement may have been made without really thinking out all of its ramifications

so again it is good to question

Finally in the light of objections a poster may realize that is not what he really wants to hold

so again it is good to question

What I posted is confirmed every time you read it.

 

[TomFL]

What I posted is confirmed every time you read it.

So you do believe the fruit of the spirit is for unbelievers

 

[brightfame52]

So you do believe the fruit of the spirit is for unbelievers

Did I post that?

 

[TomFL]

Did I post that?

Yes

It appears you did

And you just stated

What I posted is confirmed every time you read it.

so you do believe the fruit of the spirit is for unbelievers