EPA Gets Kneecapped At The USSC

Backup

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Science can be corrupted by both political and monetary factors.
so?

did you mis the “have other people check your work” part of the equation?

I understand you people have to imagine huge, international conspiracies to “justify” your positions due to lack of evidence.

What’s so funny is how you people will turn right around and gullibly get burned by the most laughably stupid propagandists, with obvious agendas.
 

glenlogie

Well-known member
so?

did you mis the “have other people check your work” part of the equation?

I understand you people have to imagine huge, international conspiracies to “justify” your positions due to lack of evidence.

What’s so funny is how you people will turn right around and gullibly get burned by the most laughably stupid propagandists, with obvious agendas.
Double checking the work is no guarantee.
 

glenlogie

Well-known member
so?

did you mis the “have other people check your work” part of the equation?

I understand you people have to imagine huge, international conspiracies to “justify” your positions due to lack of evidence.

What’s so funny is how you people will turn right around and gullibly get burned by the most laughably stupid propagandists, with obvious agendas.
I just know that all people are corruptable.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Since record keeping has been in effect since about 100 years ago or so, your statement cannot be verified.
Did you read about the background of the tree rings they used to guess temps in siberia?

They chose one variable. They correlated a thicker tree ring meant warmer time period.
Nothing about location of the tree, roots, how close to other trees, reindeer poo under the tree.

They picked one tree out of groups of trees in several areas and countries. Briffa '95
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Most of us learned what the scientific method is, basically measuring stuff and having other people check your work.

Much better method than what you people use, making stuff up, falling for lies, and willful ignorance.
You have no science credentials.
When you applauded Mike Mannn, he refused to comply with court orders to produce evidence of his work.
He cheated and his work was hidden. He still refuses to pay court ordered legal fee. Liar and crook.
 

Gondwanaland

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I'm obviously not expecting a straight answer from you.

If I remember your thing was you didn't think you needed the vaccine because you got COVID. Kind of conspiracy lite. You were still anti-vaccine, I guess.

I suppose an easy way to put it is: do you think the WHO and CDC were intentionally lying to us (trying to establish a new world order ruled by commies) and the hard working conspiracy bloggers were our only source of reliable information?

again, I'm obviously not expecting a straight answer from you.
Well well well, lookit that, "my thing" was that I didn't need the vaccine because I got covid. Tell me now is Cornell University "conspiracy lite" as well?

Natural Immunity Offered More Protection Against Omicron Than 3 Vaccine Doses, New England Journal of Medicine Study Finds
Importantly, the Cornell University-funded study found that both natural immunity and vaccines offer “strong and durable protection” against Covid-related hospitalization and death.

News reports say the Biden administration is currently weighing a plan that would allow all adults to receive a second Covid-19 booster, citing concerns from White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci about the spike in hospitalizations “fueled by the extremely contagious omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5.”

Currently second booster shots are only offered to individuals over the age of 50.

Meanwhile, discussion of a potential fifth shot is already underway. During a recent television appearance, CNN host Don Lemon asked CNN medical analyst Jonathan Reiner if such a scenario is likely.
LEMON: "That was my next question, I’m giving away my age because I’ve already had four shots, I've had two boosters, so I'm over 50."

REINER: "Me too."

LEMON: "So are we going to get a fifth shot? We're going to have to have a fifth shot?"

REINER: "Yeah, probably.
The discussions highlight certain realities of Covid immunization.

“Immunity wanes,” Fauci said during a White House briefing on Tuesday, “whether that’s immunity following infection or immunity following vaccine.”

Natural Immunity vs Vaccination
While it’s true that immunization wanes, new scientific research from The New England Journal of Medicine suggests natural immunity lasts longer than immunity acquired from vaccines.

The study, a case–control analysis based on data from Qatar collected from December 23, 2021 through February 21, 2022, involved millions of people, including 1,306,862 who received at least two doses of the Pfizer vaccine (BNT162b2) and 893,671 people who received at least two doses of the Moderna vaccine (mRNA-1273), as well unvaccinated individuals.

The results of the study are a mixed bag for the vaccines.

The best news is that “any form of previous immunity, whether induced by previous infection or vaccination, is associated with strong and durable protection against Covid-19–related hospitalization and death.” (In other words, both vaccines and natural immunity reduce the risk of hospitalization or death from Covid.)

Also good news is that both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines “enhanced protection among persons who had had a previous infection.”

“The combination of prior, full vaccination and prior infection was maximally protective,” researchers said in a summary of the study’s findings released last month by the Weill Cornell Medicine Newsroom. “Individuals with prior infection and three doses of either mRNA vaccine were, overall, nearly 80 percent protected from symptomatic infection during the omicron wave.”

But the study also found that two doses of vaccines offered “negligible” protection against Omicron infection.

“A key finding was that a history of vaccination with the standard two doses of either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccine, but no history of prior infection, brought no significant protection against symptomatic omicron infection,” researchers said.

In regards to the Pfizer vaccine, three shots offered considerably more protection. But the protection was still lower than natural immunity, which offered stronger and more sustained protection from infection than vaccination. (Researchers noted that “people with a prior-variant infection were moderately protected from omicron with little decline in protection even a year after their prior infection.”)


The findings are not unlike those out of Israel published last year, which found that natural immunity offered more robust protection against the Delta variant than vaccines.

“The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine,” Science reported in August 2021 in a piece exploring the Israel findings.

More than a dozen other studies also found that natural immunity offered powerful protection against Covid, equal to or stronger than vaccination.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Well well well, looking that, "my thing" was that I didn't need the vaccine because I got covid. Tell me now is Cornell University "conspiracy lite" as well?
The question is why isn't CDC telling us this?
Why doesn't fauchee report this?
 

Gondwanaland

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Well well well, lookit that, "my thing" was that I didn't need the vaccine because I got covid. Tell me now is Cornell University "conspiracy lite" as well?
@Backup is suddenly real quiet...
 

Authentic Nouveau

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so?

did you mis the “have other people check your work” part of the equation?

Like your ugly cheater Mannn who refused to produce Mannnipulated data to the court.
I understand you people have to imagine huge, international conspiracies to “justify” your positions due to lack of evidence.

What’s so funny is how you people will turn right around and gullibly get burned by the most laughably stupid propagandists, with obvious agendas.
 
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