Ok. Let's address those
the resurrection was Jesus brought back up from death
The ascension was Jesus re-entering Heaven to be with the Father
the gospel is that Jesus died for sin and by faith we can be saved
the trinity is God in three persons, yet still one God
Christ always was and always will be God
The incarnation was for a little while, Bible says that for a little while, Jesus was lower than the angels
Original sin, if you mean the idea that each person is born guilty because of Adam, is not stated in the Bible
I will demonstrate how all of your heterodox beliefs are connected to one another just by denying Jesus is our present Mediator. We will see how it connects to such doctrines as the Incarnation, deity of Christ, humanity of Christ, the gospel, the Resurrection/Ascension, Kenosis, the Trinity and other important doctrines of the Christian Faith.
In another thread you denied that you believed like the JW's in the resurrection thread and of course I knew better because we have had the conversation numerous times and I have a good memory. So here are your own words below from the old forum.
Originally Posted by
civic
[The JW’s are emphatic on the point that Jesus could not have been raised in a physical body and they go out of their way to make sure of this. “He Jesus merely materialized flesh and blood to be seen and believed” (Make Sure of all Things p.314 1953 Ed.) “We deny that he raised in the flesh, and challenge any statement to that effect as being unscriptural.” (The Finished Mystery p.57 1917) “Having given up his flesh for the life of the world, Christ could never take it again and become a man once more” (You can live in Paradise on Earth p.169 1982)
Sethproton responds :
As much as it embarrasses me to have to agree with this statement, i think it more closely represents what I see in scripture than what i've been taught for 40 years. Of course the JW's have other doctrines which I don't see in the word.
http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthre...a-human-body&p=3454460&viewfull=1#post3454460
Refuting seth on our PRESENT Mediator
Here are my top 10 reasons from the text proving Jesus is still a man and our Mediator.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1- It declares there
IS One God
AND One Mediator
2- This Mediator is in heaven
3- This One Mediator who is in heaven is a man
4- This was written decades post Resurrection/Ascension
5- One must deny the One God if they deny the One Mediator
6- To have one without the other cannot be found in the text
7- To argue against a present mediator who is a man is to be DISHONEST with the text
8- To do so is only for a person with a bias or agenda
9- This single text alone crumbles his theology on His present manhood and role as Mediator.
10- And last but not least it proves His bodily Resurrection and Ascension as a man. The icing on the cake
Results of your heretical view on Jesus 2 natures being permanent and denting the essential doctrine of the Incarnation.
1-Jesus is no longer a man but a spirit like JW's teach
2-Jesus physical body was shed like a garment
3-Jesus Resurrected body is not physical
4-Jesus didn't mean He was really flesh and bones post Resurrection and denied being a spirit
5-Jesus is no longer our Mediator since He is no longer a man
6-You deny Jesus is Impeccable
7-You are kenosis
8-You deny original sin
9-You believe pelagianism is true
10-You deny the Incarnation which was permanent
11- You deny the gospel which its core is the Resurrection
12- You deny Jesus has come in the flesh(and remains so) which is the spirit of antichrist teaching
hope this helps !!!
