Evolution is a fact.

[Whateverman]

Temujin claims nature caused the universe and life to begin - where is the evidence?

Shifting the burden, where's your evidence that Temujin claimed anything?

Yes you do.

Projection. Where's your evidence Temujin made the claim you're accusing him of?

 

[ferengi]

Projection.

Yes you do - care to address your claim of the lack of evidence of the supernatural?

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

This is what happens when there is too much lockdown.

The arm chair speculationism flourishes.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

A healthy discussion is good.
Alas, one obnoxious person just wants to spew insults at everyone.
Why are some people like that? Wait. I know why.
The internet protects them from consequences.
Behaviour that would get them a punch on the mouth in real life, is now safe thanks to the internet.
Well, we may not be able to punch these vile people. But we can report them, and hope the mods will deal with them.
I hope this new CARM is better than its previous incarnations. A place for civil discussion.

Why are you angry and hurling accusations instead of discussing science?

 

[Mr Laurier]

Why are you angry and hurling accusations instead of discussing science?

Because I am not angry, and am not hurling accusations.

 

[ferengi]

Evolution is a fact.

Prove it

 

[rossum]

Prove it

Fact 1: You are descended from your parents.

Fact 2: You are not genetically identical to either of your parents.

Therefore you are descended from your parents with modification.

Descent with modification is evolution.

QED.

 

[Mesenja]

A slight diversion .

to help Young Earth Creationists

Why is this question even up for debate? The Bible never tells us the exact age of the earth. To say otherwise is engaging in eisegesis.

 

[ferengi]

Fact 1: You are descended from your parents.
Fact 2: You are not genetically identical to either of your parents.
Therefore you are descended from your parents with modification.
Descent with modification is evolution.

Non-sequitur.

 

[CrowCross]

Why is this question even up for debate? The Bible never tells us the exact age of the earth. To say otherwise is engaging in eisegesis.

It gets pretty close. Ask Bishop Ussher.

 

[CrowCross]

Fact 1: You are descended from your parents.

Fact 2: You are not genetically identical to either of your parents.

Therefore you are descended from your parents with modification.

Descent with modification is evolution.

QED.

Once again you resort to the famous coloring book.

 

[Mesenja]

It gets pretty close. Ask Bishop Usher.

Why?

 

[HillsboroMom]

Why is this question even up for debate? The Bible never tells us the exact age of the earth. To say otherwise is engaging in eisegesis.

IKR?

When I read the Bible the first time, at the ripe young age of 7, it was obvious to me.

 

[rossum]

Once again you resort to the famous coloring book.

Once again you have no substantive response to what you are told. Evolution is descent with modification. Descent with modification observably happens.

 

[Newbirth]

Fact 1: You are descended from your parents.

Fact 2: You are not genetically identical to either of your parents.

Therefore you are descended from your parents with modification.

Descent with modification is evolution.

QED.

but not into a different specie...the issue in contention would be evolving from apes to humans.

 

[Newbirth]

Fact 1: You are descended from your parents.

Fact 2: You are not genetically identical to either of your parents.

Therefore you are descended from your parents with modification.

Descent with modification is evolution.

QED.

The Ultimate Truth is that there is no ultimate truth. Where does that leave your assumed facts?

 

[rossum]

but not into a different specie...the issue in contention would be evolving from apes to humans.

The first observed instance of a new species evolving from an earlier species was by de Vries in 1905. Even Answers in Genesis agree that new species can evolve from earlier species. This is required by the space limitations on Noah's Ark. AiG accepts that new species can evolve 'within the same kind'.

You are over 100 years out of date with your science. If even AiG is less inaccurate than you are, then you have a real problem.

 

[rossum]

The Ultimate Truth is that there is no ultimate truth. Where does that leave your assumed facts?

Basic logic error there: assumptions are not facts. Assumptions are assumptions; facts are facts. The two are not the same.

It leaves me with ordinary truths, not ultimate truths. I can work well enough with ordinary truths; ultimate truths are unnecessary and more of a distraction than anything.

The parable of truth goes something like this...

When truth was born, it was visited by a magical fairy and blessed with three qualities: the ability to be absolute, the ability to be objective, and the ability to refer to the external world. The condition for this blessing was that truth could only exhibit a maximum of two of those qualities simultaneously. Therefore it could be absolute and objective, but not refer to the external world (mathematical truth). It could be objective and refer to the external world, but not absolute (scientific truth). Finally, it could be absolute and refer to the external world, but not objective (aesthetic truth).​

We need to use the correct type of truth for whatever topic we are working on.

 

[CrowCross]

Why?

Do a search for Bishop Ussher.

Learn about him and what he was famous for.

 

[robycop3]

Fact 1: You are descended from your parents.

Fact 2: You are not genetically identical to either of your parents.

Therefore you are descended from your parents with modification.

Descent with modification is evolution.

QED.

But you're still homo sapiens.