Example of systemic racism

[Woody50]

It depends on how you define "racism."

No. It doesn't.

You judge based on skin color.

That's racism.

Typical leftist, though. You know what you are and can't bear what you see in the mirror--so you just redefine it to make yourself more at ease. Orwell described your sort perfectly.

You judge based on skin color.

That's messed up and racist.

Typical leftist.

 

[HillsboroMom]

It’s also worth noting that Nigerians are the most educated and most successful demographic in America. Why has this systemic racism not affected them?

Do you have evidence to back this up?

 

[Howie]

So you are in favor of telling white children they are racist?

Twist the words of others much (a statement about you).

Woooosh!

White supremacy answer.

 

[Woody50]

Ohio is FULL of racists.

Name one.

 

[Howie]

I agree that the South is the least racist part of the country. Basically it’s because that’s where the black people live and if your lawyer and banker are black it’s hard to subscribe to silly stereotypes.

People in New York and LA seem to imagine Southerners are still living in the 1950s.

The most racist city I’ve ever been to us Pittsburg, which actually gives credence to the OP, since it’s about Cincinnati, and they are kind of similar cities,

I've never been to a racist city.

 

[Woody50]

Do you have evidence to back this up?

LOL!!! You ask THIS question?

There's a definition (not twisted as you do) for that. Hypocrite.

 

[Woody50]

LOL!!! You ask THIS question?

There's a definition (not twisted as you do) for that. Hypocrite.

Wait for it. She's going to ask me "how am I a hypocrite? Evidence?"

LOL!!!!

 

[Howie]

That's exactly the problem: believing what you will. I just posted up a link to an actual study on the issue, and I quoted an explanation from Richard Carrier of what systemic racism is. If you **don't** want to believe what you will - if you want to follow logic and evidence - you can challenge specifics in that study and Carrier's hypothetical. If you want to believe what you will, then don't do any of that.

Confirmation bias from your chosen experts Gus, it's what folks like you are all about.

Yes, and I've already said the opposite, so I don't know what you're on about. I, nor the Brookings study, nor Richard Carrier, have claimed that the US - as a whole - is systemically racist. Elements within the US may be.

Says Gus from confirmation bias land.

The US is not systemically racist at all. History is clear about that.

However, there are racists in this country, in all colors ... always has been, always will be ...

 

[Woody50]

Says Gus from confirmation bias land.

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(Tom Hanks in The Money Pit)


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Haaaaaaaaaaaaa......

Love it, Howie.

 

[HillsboroMom]

It’s also worth noting that Nigerians are the most educated and most successful demographic in America. Why has this systemic racism not affected them?

In fact, I've found significant evidence to show that this is not the case. In fact, the most educated demographic in America are Asian Americans, by a significant margin -- to all others, including whites. African-born immigrants are far more educated than American-born blacks, but they still lag behind both Asians and Whites (though just a shade behind native-born whites).

EDUCATION:

Educational attainment in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/p20-550.pdf

INCOME:

List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nigerian Americans are listed as 56th, with an average annual household income of $68,658, just a shade over the American Median of $63,179, and significantly below 55 other ethnic groups, including (but not limited to, because I'm not going to list all 55) Korean Americans, Polish Americans, and South African Americans.

I have a handful of Nigerian friends, and they are certainly more educated and more industrious than the average American. But as a group, the evidence shows they are not "the most educated and successful."

 

[Woody50]

Yes, unfortunately I have.

I do not believe you.

I have witnessed applications being tossed because the name was "black".

When? Where? Generalizations don't impress me.

Names, please.

You hide your head in the sand.

You do.

When you see a young black man driving a Mercedes what's the first thing that pops in your mind?

Nice car!

He's a lawyer? Or he's a drug dealer?

No...I like the car. I couldn't care less who is in it. YOU do, though. You're the racist.

I have enough racist acquaintances to know what the answer is.

I have enough black friends to know you're lying. How many black friends to you have, by that way? I'd say none.

When you have enough individual racism it just blends into the system.

No. You don't. You stick out like a sore thumb, racist.

They are starting to teach critical race theory which IMO continues the systemic racism.

I'd like to talk about that, but you seem to be one who has been indoctrinated as a racist. All you see is color.

I don't. My black friends don't. They're ticked off at whites like you. Not angry, per se, but irritated. "Just live your own life and trust me to live my own. I don't need 'white help.' Black men are stronger than you realize--probably stronger than you. Stop trying to be my crutch and worry about your own failures."

 

[Woody50]

I do not believe you.

When? Where? Generalizations don't impress me.

Names, please.

You do.

Nice car!

No...I like the car. I couldn't care less who is in it. YOU do, though. You're the racist.

I have enough black friends to know you're lying. How many black friends to you have, by that way? I'd say none.

No. You don't. You stick out like a sore thumb, racist.

I'd like to talk about that, but you seem to be one who has been indoctrinated as a racist. All you see is color.

I don't. My black friends don't. They're ticked off at whites like you. Not angry, per se, but irritated. "Just live your own life and trust me to live my own. I don't need 'white help.' Black men are stronger than you realize--probably stronger than you. Stop trying to be my crutch and worry about your own failures."

He won't answer the challenge, but will latch on the the "whites like you" statement, which was bait, and will show his racism.

Wait for it...

 

[Backup]

I am from Portland.

Portland is not "lily white."

It is true that we have a significantly lower percentage of African Americans than the national average, and a higher of whites, but we also have a strong Latino presence, a very rich heritage of Asians (from all parts of Asia -- Middle East, Sub Continent, Far East, and Pacific Islands) as well as a significant number of people from mixed heritages. (We rank 15th in the list of most mixed races, but 26th in the US for population.)

Can we do better? Of course we can. But we're not "lily white." We do not have "simplistic stereotypes."

Portland is one of, if not the, whitest major city in America.

My theory is that’s why the BLM protests were so big there. The idea that most black folk are just normal, work-a-day, regular people is foreign to its citizens. Where I live black people are considered peers, not some repressed group that needs me to save them.

 

[Backup]

Do you have evidence to back this up?

Have you tried doing a quick Google search? I don’t know if you are trolling me, so I will do it for you and see how you react. If you move the goalpost or pull a red herring I won’t in the future.

The Most Successful Ethnic Group in the U.S. May Surprise You | OZY

Nigerian-Americans are on a path to become one of the most successful immigrant groups in American history.

www.ozy.com

 

[Faithoverbelief]

It’s also worth noting that Nigerians are the most educated and most successful demographic in America. Why has this systemic racism not affected them?

Who says it doesn't affect them? They are successful because they fight through the system. The Nigerian people's put great priority on education and their country is doing well. It does not mean there isn't systemic racism.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Maybe racism is more common in Ohio. The people I’ve known from there were certainly not racist, but that’s where the OP took place, and is where your personal experience comes from.

Regardless, racism is socially unacceptable, not tolerated in the workplace, and racial discrimination is illegal. I’m not sure what else we are supposed to do. The systemic racism idea still strikes me as a conspiracy theory.

Overt hatred of gays is still fairly common, certainly on this forum, if nowhere else in my personal life.

Who said they hate gays?
Who in their own words denied climate?

 

[Faithoverbelief]

Name one.

Andrew Anglin

 

[Woody50]

Andrew Anglin

Don’t know him. Her??

 

[Gus Bovona]

Confirmation bias from your chosen experts Gus, it's what folks like you are all about.

Do you have any evidence for that position, or is that just an accusation you can toss out on its own?

The US is not systemically racist at all. History is clear about that.

You can't acknowledge that I'm not claiming that the (entire) US is systemically racist?

However, there are racists in this country, in all colors ... always has been, always will be ...

Agreed, but hopefully it won't always be.

 

[Woody50]

Don’t know him. Her??

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