Example of systemic racism

[Faithoverbelief]

Don’t know him. Her??

Sounds like a personal problem. You said name one, I did.

 

[Woody50]

Sounds like a personal problem. You said name one, I did.

Nuh uh.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

It’s also worth noting that Nigerians are the most educated and most successful demographic in America. Why has this systemic racism not affected them?

I taught a home Bible study to a Nigerian with 2 undergrad engineering degrees and a Masters in engineering. No humanities diploma.
Our Pastor's Electrical Physiology Doc is a Nigerian female. Also never touched humanities fluff.
Neither one worship Systemic Bidenism.

 

[Howie]

Do you have any evidence for that position, or is that just an accusation you can toss out on its own?

Yes. Your post.

You can't acknowledge that I'm not claiming that the (entire) US is systemically racist?

Absolutely not. The US is not systemically racist, at all. There are racists to be sure. There always will be, unless the Dem takeover is successful, and they kill all those who won't join them in their beliefs.

Agreed, but hopefully it won't always be.

See above.

 

[Gus Bovona]

Have you tried doing a quick Google search? I don’t know if you are trolling me, so I will do it for you and see how you react. If you move the goalpost or pull a red herring I won’t in the future.

The Most Successful Ethnic Group in the U.S. May Surprise You | OZY

Nigerian-Americans are on a path to become one of the most successful immigrant groups in American history.

www.ozy.com

Unfortunately, there is nothing in the content of that article that delivers on the promise of its title. What I found that appears to be (but isn't really) the data to support the claim in the title is the following:

Today, 61 percent of Nigerian-Americans over the age of 25 hold a graduate degree, compared to 32 percent for the U.S.-born population.

That only says that N-As achieve more than the average American, not that they are the most successful ethnic group.

Among Nigerian-American professionals, 45 percent work in education services . . . and many are professors at top universities.

Nothing in there to show that N-As are the most successful ethnic group.

Nigerians are entering the medical field in the U.S. at an increased rate

Nothing in there to show that N-As are the most successful ethnic group.

A growing number of Nigerian-Americans are becoming entrepreneurs and CEOs, building tech companies in the U.S. to help people back home.

Nothing in there to show that N-As are the most successful ethnic group.

one of the country’s most succesful immigrant communities, with a median household income of $62,351, compared to $57,617 nationally, as of 2015.

Nothing in there to show that N-As are the most successful ethnic group.

There's nothing else in the article that even comes close to the claim of the title.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

You have no evidence that Gus has been "brainwashed."

It was confirmed on the CARM evolution board.
You confirmed your brainwashings on the Abortion board.

 

[Gus Bovona]

Yes. Your post.

Why about my post in particular makes it evidence for confirmation bias? Can you explain your position instead of just asserting it?

Absolutely not. The US is not systemically racist, at all. There are racists to be sure. There always will be, unless the Dem takeover is successful, and they kill all those who won't join them 8n their beliefs

What part of Carrier's example of systemic racism in a police station do you disagree with?

 

[Howie]

Why about my post in particular makes it evidence for confirmation bias? Can you explain your position instead of just asserting it?

You're in denial, Gus. Again, your post is all the proof I'm going to offer. I know it's a struggle for you. It requires you to think in a way you are not accomustomed to thinking, that is, against yourself.

What part of Carrier's example of systemic racism in a police station do you disagree with?

It's not true, but you cannot understand that. You are one of them. Studies, statistics, info gathering and presentation, all can be manipulated, Gus. Look at "climate change," the past year of COVID, studies showing "this" is true, studies showing "this" isn't true. Wake up, Gus. Slavery has been over for a long, long time. Pay attention to successful blacks rather than socialists claiming falsehoods about "systemic" racism as they push racism.

There are are certainly racist cops, of all colors, there always will be.

 

[Faithoverbelief]

You're in denial, Gus. Again, your post is all the proof I'm going to offer. I know it's a struggle for you. It requires you to think in a way you are not accomustomed to thinking, that is, against yourself.


It's not true, but you cannot understand that. You are one of them. Studies, statistics, info gathering and presentation, all can be manipulated, Gus. Look at "climate change," the past year of COVID, studies showing "this" is true, studies showing "this" isn't true. Wake up, Gus. Slavery has been over for a long, long time. Pay attention to successful blacks rather than socialists claiming falsehoods about "systemic" racism as they push racism.

There are are certainly racist cops, of all colors, there always will be.

Yeah slavery is over so no more racism. Oh wait....

Tulsa race massacre - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Howie]

Yeah slavery is over so no more racism. Oh wait....

Tulsa race massacre - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Twisting words and putting words in my mouth again. Face it, YOU ARE A LIBERAL, your objection to that fact notwithstanding.

You cannot win an argument, so you resort to word twisting and put words into the mouths of others.

Again, chief, in this country, there are indeed racists, of all colors, and there always will be.

Try reading the civil rights legislation passed in the US since the 50s.

Systemic racism is a lie you've fallen for. Wake up.

 

[HillsboroMom]

Portland is one of, if not the, whitest major city in America.

Did you bother looking at the references?

It is not the whitest city in America. Boise City is the whitest. I'm not sure if you consider that a "major" city. Other cities that rank "above" (or below, depending on how you look at it) Portland include, in order, Spokane (WA), Scottsdale (AZ), Lincoln (NE), and Madison (WI).

My theory is that’s why the BLM protests were so big there. The idea that most black folk are just normal, work-a-day, regular people is foreign to its citizens. Where I live black people are considered peers, not some repressed group that needs me to save them.

And that is just plain false. Portlanders know that black people are "just normal, work-a-day, regular people."

Your theory also doesn't explain why protests were even more deadly in Los Angeles, Memphis, Louisville, and New York City.

Lincoln (NE) is 79.6% non-hispanic white, 4.4% black, 7.6% hispanic
Los Angeles is 25.9% non-hispanic white, 8% black, 26.2% hispanic
Louisville is 65.6% non-hispanic white, 24% black, 4.3% hispanic
Memphis is 25.7% non-hispanic white, 64.1% black, 7.2% hispanic
New York City is 32.1% non-hispanic white, 24.3% black, 29.1% hispanic
Portland is 70.6% non-hispanic white, 5.8% black, 9.7% hispanic
Provo (UT) is 74.4% non-hispanic white, 0.9% black, 16.7% hispanic

I appreciate your attempt at a theory, and on the surface, it's a reasonable idea. But when applied to reality, it doesn't hold water. If your theory were correct, Memphis, Louisville, and New York would not have seen any riots or violence at all, and Provo and Lincoln would have been the epicenters of the worst violence in the country.

It's akin to saying, "I think a bowling ball, when dropped from the same height, will hit the earth more quickly than a basket ball." It's a great theory. It seems reasonable. It makes sense, if you don't actually know anything about gravity. The bowling ball is much more heavy than a basket ball, right? But if you actually do the experiment, you will find they hit the ground at the same time. Because science.

Theories are fascinating. Making a theory is an important step in the scientific process. But once you have actual data to disprove them, it's time to adjust the theory and find another answer.

Portland was not a seed of protests because of its low rate of African Americans. Your theory does not hold water.

 

[Faithoverbelief]

Twisting words and putting words in my mouth again. Face it, YOU ARE A LIBERAL, your objection to that fact notwithstanding.

You cannot win an argument, so you resort to word twisting and put words into the mouths of others.

Again, chief, in this country, there are indeed racists, of all colors, and there always will be.

Try reading the civil rights legislation passed in the US since the 50s.

Systemic racism is a lie you've fallen for. Wake up.

Not twisting its what you imply. Systemic racism is everywhere. Wake up.

If you think there are races then you're racist. Critical race theory is racist. It is so immersed in our society you can't see it.

It's not a left or right thing. Wake up.

 

[Gus Bovona]

You're in denial, Gus. Again, your post is all the proof I'm going to offer. I know it's a struggle for you. It requires you to think in a way you are not accomustomed to thinking, that is, against yourself.

Without offering any explanation of how my post is confirmation bias, there’s no reason to think that it is. You’re just asserting that it is.

It's not true,

which part is not true?

but you cannot understand that. You are one of them. Studies, statistics, info gathering and presentation, all can be manipulated, Gus.

That something can be manipulated doesn’t mean that it has been, but you’re assuming that it has been. Heck, I didn’t even say that that study had to be true.

Look at "climate change," the past year of COVID, studies showing "this" is true, studies showing "this" isn't true.

See above.

Wake up, Gus.

I’m awake.

Slavery has been over for a long, long time.

Systemic racism today is not about slavery. Why would you even bring that up?

Pay attention to successful blacks rather than socialists claiming falsehoods about "systemic" racism as they push racism.

You should pay attention to anyone who brings logic and sufficient evidence to a claim, no matter if they are successful blacks, socialists, or whoever. Something is a fact no matter who says it.

There are are certainly racist cops, of all colors, there always will be.

So if other, non racist cops don’t push back against the racist ones, like cops who tend to stick up for each other, that’s exactly what Carrier was defining as systemic racism. What part of that doesn’t work for you?

 

[shnarkle]

Outside the big cities of Florida it is scary how openly racist they are and how the black people who live there act passively in order to achieve peace with the racists.

Ironically, the only racist I've seen in Florida has Ohio license plates.

 

[shnarkle]

Not twisting its what you imply. Systemic racism is everywhere. Wake up.

If you think there are races then you're racist. Critical race theory is racist. It is so immersed in our society you can't see it.

It's not a left or right thing. Wake up.

Could you explain how white people working on the underground railroad to free black slaves fits in with Critical race theory?

 

[shnarkle]

Maybe racism is more common in Ohio. The people I’ve known from there were certainly not racist, but that’s where the OP took place, and is where your personal experience comes from.

Regardless, racism is socially unacceptable, not tolerated in the workplace, and racial discrimination is illegal. I’m not sure what else we are supposed to do. The systemic racism idea still strikes me as a conspiracy theory.

Overt hatred of gays is still fairly common, certainly on this forum, if nowhere else in my personal life.

I wonder if anyone has come up with a similar theory for homosexuality, e.g. Critical sexual orientation theory; systemic homophobia, etc.

 

[Howie]

Without offering any explanation of how my post is confirmation bias, there’s no reason to think that it is. You’re just asserting that it is.

I told you, Gus. Your post is the evidence.

which part is not true?

That there is systemic racism in the US.

Please cite as many laws as you can enshrining systemic racism. They should be plainly stated, I should think, right?

That something can be manipulated doesn’t mean that it has been, but you’re assuming that it has been. Heck, I didn’t even say that that study had to be true.

Gus, cite as many laws enshrining syatemic racism as you can. I expect they should be plainly stated. If the problem is truly systemic there should be plain evidence of that written in the law.

Systemic racism today is not about slavery. Why would you even bring that up?

Everything about racism begins with slavery.

You should pay attention to anyone who brings logic and sufficient evidence to a claim, no matter if they are successful blacks, socialists, or whoever. Something is a fact no matter who says it.

When someone presents said evidence, I'll pay attention to it.

So if other, non racist cops don’t push back against the racist ones, like cops who tend to stick up for each other, that’s exactly what Carrier was defining as systemic racism. What part of that doesn’t work for you?

I reject that definition, Gus. Cite for me laws, written by people in the system, that are racist laws. That is systemic racism.

 

[Howie]

Could you explain how white people working on the underground railroad to free black slaves fits in with Critical race theory?

It destroys it.

 

[Backup]

Who says it doesn't affect them? They are successful because they fight through the system. The Nigerian people's put great priority on education and their country is doing well. It does not mean there isn't systemic racism.

The fact that black Nigerians are the most successful ethnic group in America is obviously an argument against the idea of systemic racism.

Lots of groups work hard and respect education, but a group that happens to be black lands on top. Seems unlikely if the entire system is secretly conspiring against them.

The immediate rejection of Nigerian success in America by people that promote the idea of systemic racism makes it seem even more like a conspiracy theory.

 

[Backup]

Who said they hate gays?

Not “they,” cowboy