extra Biblical sources of History

Open Heart

Open Heart

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American Gothic said:
if a prophecy comes to pass it's true Prophecy? regardless of Canonization or not?
not every prophet made the Biblical published major leagues,
or maybe even had their prophesying written down
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The way a prophet was distinguished is he had to go before the sanhedrin and make three prophecies. All three had to come true. They had to be prophecies of specific stuff, not things that could simply be intuited or were open to interpretation whether they were fulfilled.
 
Open Heart

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American Gothic said:
Again, the number of adherents to a particular view does not confirm or prove it's Truth,
nor have I proposed that any of these works are Scripture - just that they contain interesting details possibly omitted from Scripture.
Only God's Word of revelation should be trusted as such.

There were writings from the prophets Gad, Nathan, Shemaiah, Ahijah, and Iddo that were not put in the Hebrew bible as well.
There is a book of Gad avaliable, and it is pretty dope.
I'd bet some Jews, somewhere, have these "lost five" prophets in full, and they contain prophecies and History.

"This month shall be your beginning of months; it shall be the first month of the year to you." Exodus 12
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Nothing you have written really negates what I said.
 
Open Heart

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American Gothic said:
Qumran/DDS (disposed Zadok priesthood) calendar starts Nisan 1 and the holidays fall on the same days of week every year
360 days in 12 30day months with 4 outside the months "days" (solstices/equinoxes) and a leap week

did you know there are a number of first fruit days? (barley, wine, oil (olives?), etc. all 50 days apart from each other?
and a week of wood offering days from the non Levitical tribes, cool huh?

God calls Israel stiff necked, etc. it's cute how He does so
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Again, nothing that you said negates what I mentioned about Judaism having three different new years.
 
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would you guys and gal say Pharisaism is the Faith at the center of Scripture?

"Abraham believed...etc."
"the just shall live by faith"
 
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I'm sure you do, hopefully can respect each other, and this is not the OP
extrabiblical sources of History is https://www.definitions.net/definition/extrabiblical <<<<<<<-------OH

Question for the lot of you/anyone:
just reading the Genesis account or with your already knowledge of the Story,
how old do you view Isaac as being when he was going to possibly be sacrificed?
 
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Jewjitzu

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American Gothic said:
would you guys and gal say Pharisaism is the Faith at the center of Scripture?

"Abraham believed...etc."
"the just shall live by faith"
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Abraham followed God's commands and circumcised his household, etc.,

For I have chosen him, so that he will command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is right and just, in order that the LORD may bring upon Abraham what He has promised.”

Some would call this Pharisaism.
 
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Jewjitzu said:
And we decide to choose him. That's how you establish a covenant. It's two way.
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Abrahamic covenant is one way - only God went thru the animal parts.
It's unconditional and all on God to fulfill His promises.

Mosaic covenant is conditional. (Law and obedience)
 
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Jewjitzu

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American Gothic said:
Abrahamic covenant is one way - only God went thru the animal parts.
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Nothing says He did. You have a physical understanding.

You tried this before.

American Gothic said:
It's unconditional and all on God to fulfill His promises.
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It was conditional on Abraham obeying and cutting the animals in half.

American Gothic said:
Mosaic covenant is conditional. (Law and obedience)
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Not anymore. Once accepted, it's not conditional.
 
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Jewjitzu said:
You have a physical understanding
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from his youth, God gave Abraham the gift of Faith
obedience to whatever God might ask or command is evidence of faith

Isaac had that gift of faith as well, which is why he was not afraid to be sacrificed (Jasher)
he knew God could raise him from the dead

and would have if it came to that, because God still had unconditional promises to fulfill concerning that son of promise

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"Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise" Galatians 4:28 :)
 
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Jewjitzu

Jewjitzu

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American Gothic said:
from his youth, God gave Abraham the gift of Faith
obedience to whatever God might ask or command is evidence of faith

Isaac had that gift of faith as well, which is why he was not afraid to be sacrificed
he knew God could raise him from the dead

and would have if it came to that, because God still had unconditional promises to fulfill concerning that son of promise

"Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise" Galatians 4:28 :)
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Faith in Hebrew, emunah, comes from the same root as amen. It is only faith when we act in agreement with it.

Christians have a different faith.
 
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