False labels

BMS

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Let me stop you there. As gender identity is not based on biology, this is irrelevant.
So claims Temujin without being able to quantify it. No Temujin you have swallowed a lie.
The transphobic, homophobic and misogynist lies are peddled by those like you who deny biological sex and peddle the lie of gender identity,

By asking them.
They are lying. Some people have a dysphoria with their biological sex, but they don't deny the reality
 

BMS

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Imaginary beings, whether they be trans neutrois non trinary spirits and pixies or gods, do not produce objective moral codes. Neither do human beings writing religious tracts. Confusing completely different subjects as you do here, doesn't work because you have completely lost the plot in both of them.
Well neutrois is one of your ideology's made up gender lies. So much for your delusion.
 

Temujin

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So claims Temujin without being able to quantify it.
what on earth do you mean by "quantify it". Gender identity is a construct of sociology and psychology, not biology or arithmetic.
No Temujin you have swallowed a lie.
On the contrary. I reject everything you are saying.
The transphobic, homophobic and misogynist lies are peddled by
You.

They are lying. Some people have a dysphoria with their biological sex, but they don't deny the reality
Just to be clear, you are claiming that every transgender person, unless they have a diagnosis of dysphoria, is a liar? You do know that dysphoria is not the same thing as transgender? Do you actually know what dysphoria means?
 

Temujin

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And how do they explain it then? What do they tell you is how you identify a male/man as opposed to woman/female in terms of gender.
I say again, ask them. These are people, and no person is the same. Neither you nor I are entitled to make generalised comments about people's sexuality or their gender identity. Neither are we entitled to know what they are. So, if you are curious about a person, ask them. Preferably without starting by calling them a liar.
 

BMS

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what on earth do you mean by "quantify it". Gender identity is a construct of sociology and psychology, not biology or arithmetic.
Yes a social construct and a lie. What do you mean what do I mean????? And how do they explain it then? What do they tell you is how you identify a male/man as opposed to woman/female in terms of gender. Its a lie that you and some woke people imagine. It doesnt exist. All you can do is claim it does whilst we demonstrate it doesnt.

On the contrary. I reject everything you are saying.
Temujin says this and Temujin says that. Which means you can't acknowledge reality.

Just to be clear, you are claiming that every transgender person, unless they have a diagnosis of dysphoria, is a liar?
Of course, you have been shown why and you cant refute it.
 

BMS

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I say again, ask them.
No, I asked you and you couldnt articulate and you said ask them. No point in asking them if they dont know and neither do you.

Which people. I showed you youtube links of transsexuals who tell you why your woke gender ideology is stupidity.

You cant articulate the imagination and you keep peddling the lies.
 

Temujin

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No, I asked you and you couldnt articulate and you said ask them. No point in asking them if they dont know and neither do you.

Which people. I showed you youtube links of transsexuals who tell you why your woke gender ideology is stupidity.

You cant articulate the imagination and you keep peddling the lies.
You have degenerated, as so often, to telling clear lies about what I have and have not said. If I say that I am not entitled to make generalisations, then that is not me saying that I don't know, or that there is nothing to know. Your position on this subject is so toxic and so dishonest that it just isn't sensible to talk to you about it. The subject of this board and this thread is abortion, not transgender issues. If you want to talk about this issue, start a new thread and I will discuss with you there, on the proviso that you do not dishonestly distort my position or tell lies about me.
 

BMS

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You have degenerated, as so often, to telling clear lies about what I have and have not said. If I say that I am not entitled to make generalisations, then that is not me saying that I don't know, or that there is nothing to know. Your position on this subject is so toxic and so dishonest that it just isn't sensible to talk to you about it. The subject of this board and this thread is abortion, not transgender issues. If you want to talk about this issue, start a new thread and I will discuss with you there, on the proviso that you do not dishonestly distort my position or tell lies about me.
You cant answer the question. How you identify a male/man as opposed to woman/female in terms of gender. You cant

Gender identity is a lie
 

BMS

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You have degenerated, as so often, to telling clear lies about what I have and have not said. If I say that I am not entitled to make generalisations, then that is not me saying that I don't know, or that there is nothing to know. Your position on this subject is so toxic and so dishonest that it just isn't sensible to talk to you about it. The subject of this board and this thread is abortion, not transgender issues. If you want to talk about this issue, start a new thread and I will discuss with you there, on the proviso that you do not dishonestly distort my position or tell lies about me.
Your dehumanisation of the human being by tap dancing around any and every issue you get challenged with is woke. We are campaigning for the right to life for the unborn and we will continue to do so.
 

BMS

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When we buy boxes and cans of products in the store we know what we are buying because of the labels on them. We can rely on these labels to tell us what is in the containers because there are laws requiring that labels give accurate information.

But there are times when we can’t rely on labels. Groups of people who are trying to promote some belief often give themselves names that don’t accurately show who they are. One example of this is found in the debate about abortion. Those who believe abortion is wrong and are trying to end it call themselves prolife. Those who favor abortion and believe it should be permitted say they are prochoice. How accurate are these labels?

Those who are prolife believe that everyone has a right to life, and that right extends even to unborn babies. It seems to me that they are telling the truth when they say they are prolife.

Supporters of abortion call themselves prochoice because they think that any pregnant woman has the right to choose whether she will give birth to her baby. But what about the rights of the baby? Doesn’t he have a right to be born so he can make choices? A woman who aborts her baby is exercising a choice but she is denying her child the right to ever choose anything for himself. Only a living person can choose anything so in reality it is the prolife people who are prochoice.

We can’t stop anyone from calling themselves whatever they choose, but we can and should refuse to use the false labels they apply to themselves. When speaking of the sides on the abortion issue we should always call them prolife and proabortion rather than prolife and prochoice.
Another would be 'transwomen' which usually are men.
 
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