Females As Leaders/Pastors Of Males In Evangelical Churches.

JAG

Active member
Females As Leaders/Pastors Of Males In Evangelical Churches.
By JAG
Jan 4, 2022


"I like the freedom to be a preacher", said the Reverend. Henrietta Smartr Thangod,
senior pastor of the Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church.


"What about sodomy", asked the Rev. Deal Infacts, "do you like sodomy?"


"What?"


"Well", replied the Rev. Deal Infacts, "the same reasons used to empower you to be
a leader of men, women, and children in Evangelical churches, are also used to
empower homosexuals to be leaders of men, women, and children in Evangelical
churches."


{When she heard that, the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod got her shorts in a twist
and stared coldly at Rev. Deal Infacts.)


"It was not an accident", continued the Rev. Deal Infacts, "that the Women's Empowerment
Movement came BEFORE the Homosexual Empowerment Movement."


"Explain?"


"The two 'freedoms' go hand in hand", replied Rev. Deal Infacts, "Your Rebellious Saints
Evangelical Mega-Church does not obey the Bible when it says women are not to preach
(1 Tim. 2:11-14 and 1 Cor. 14:34-38) so there is no reason for your Rebellious Saints
Evangelical Mega-Church to obey the Bible when it says for members of your church not
to perform homosexual sex acts (Romans 1:24-27 and 1 Cor. 6:9-11 and 1 Tim. 1:8-11) ~
and when it says for them not to preach or pastor Christian churches if they do perform
homosexual sex acts . . .


. . . [Rev. Deal Infacts paused for a moment and then added] :


No Christian denomination will embrace homosexuals as pastors of their churches without
first changing their minds about women being pastors of their churches."


The Rev. Deal Infacts continued . . .


"You becoming the pastor of the Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church makes it easy
for homosexuals to become pastors of other Rebellious Saints Evangelical churches. Step
one, first comes women as preachers in Evangelical Christian Churches. Step two, next
comes homosexual preachers and pastors in Evangelical Christian churches.


And remember Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, you helped make that become a reality."


"Not all homosexuals who are members in good standing in Evangelical churches practice
sodomy", smirked the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod.


"That is correct", replied Rev. Deal Infacts, "but the Evangelical LGBTQ Movement within
Evangelical churches has a message for the children in those churches and their message
to the children is that sodomy is normal and good moral behavior for married homosexual
couples in Evangelical churches ~ that sodomy is not wrong. They never condemn sodomy
as a sin."

Continued Rev. Deal Infacts . . .


"In fact that is the message the LGBTQ Movement within Evangelical churches
delivers to everybody ~ to teens, to Fathers, to Mothers, to Families ~ and you Rev.
Henrietta Smartr Thangod, helped along, to some extent, Evangelicalism's LGBTQ
Movement within Evangelical churches to put their pro-sodomy message into the
minds of everybody in those Evangelical churches."


The Rev. Icanplay Thisgamealso had been listening to the ongoing conversation, and
he now spoke:


"The Apostle Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, clearly and boldly said that
women are forbidden to preach or pastor churches." (1 Tim. 2:11-14 and 1 Cor. 14:34-38)


"Harrumph", sneered the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, "Paul is not Jesus, and Jesus
told me to preach."


"No He did not," replied the Rev. Icanplay Thisgamealso, "I talked to Jesus just this morning
and Jesus told me to tell you, that you misunderstood what He told you. Jesus told me to tell
you that He said for you not to preach."


"If the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod can get special revelation from Jesus, so can the Rev.
Icanplay Thisgamealso", observed Rev. Deal Infacts.


At this point the Rev. Deal Infacts said to Rev. Henrietta:


"In your world, according to the way you interpret the Bible, maybe Jesus did not really die
for our sins. The same Bible that says Jesus died for our sins also says that a woman is not
permitted to teach or assume authority over a man (1 Tim. 211-14). You're on dangerous
ground here Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod because the way you interpret the Bible John 3:16
may not actually be true."


"Listen", said the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, "our Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church
is committed to Diversity and Multiculturalism."


"If all cultures", replied Rev. Deal Infacts, "are morally equivalent, as Multiculturalism affirms, then
there is no moral difference in Sodom/Gomorrah and in AnyTown, USA ~ which makes glad that
Old Serpent Egalitarianism. What do you think about that?"


"We", replied the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, "here at the Rebellious Saints Evangelical
Mega-church, have joined the world of the 21st century. We are not extreamists, sexists, racists,
xenophobes, or homophobes. We are in step with the world and we celebrate Diversity."


Rev. Deal Infacts replied:


"The Sodomites living in the ancient city of Sodom, if they could have known about Liberalism's
celebration of Diversity, would have been tickled pink. The mayor of Sodom would have said,
"America's liberal Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church wants to celebrate us, oh joy."


"Don't be so harsh with the good people of the ancient city of Sodom", replied the Rev. Henrietta
Smartr Thangod, "they may all have been good Christian people at heart."


[]

Thoughts?
Don't hold back ~ hold forth
 

cjab

Well-known member
Females As Leaders/Pastors Of Males In Evangelical Churches.
By JAG
Jan 4, 2022


"I like the freedom to be a preacher", said the Reverend. Henrietta Smartr Thangod,
senior pastor of the Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church.


"What about sodomy", asked the Rev. Deal Infacts, "do you like sodomy?"


"What?"


"Well", replied the Rev. Deal Infacts, "the same reasons used to empower you to be
a leader of men, women, and children in Evangelical churches, are also used to
empower homosexuals to be leaders of men, women, and children in Evangelical
churches."


{When she heard that, the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod got her shorts in a twist
and stared coldly at Rev. Deal Infacts.)


"It was not an accident", continued the Rev. Deal Infacts, "that the Women's Empowerment
Movement came BEFORE the Homosexual Empowerment Movement."


"Explain?"


"The two 'freedoms' go hand in hand", replied Rev. Deal Infacts, "Your Rebellious Saints
Evangelical Mega-Church does not obey the Bible when it says women are not to preach
(1 Tim. 2:11-14 and 1 Cor. 14:34-38) so there is no reason for your Rebellious Saints
Evangelical Mega-Church to obey the Bible when it says for members of your church not
to perform homosexual sex acts (Romans 1:24-27 and 1 Cor. 6:9-11 and 1 Tim. 1:8-11) ~
and when it says for them not to preach or pastor Christian churches if they do perform
homosexual sex acts . . .


. . . [Rev. Deal Infacts paused for a moment and then added] :


No Christian denomination will embrace homosexuals as pastors of their churches without
first changing their minds about women being pastors of their churches."


The Rev. Deal Infacts continued . . .


"You becoming the pastor of the Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church makes it easy
for homosexuals to become pastors of other Rebellious Saints Evangelical churches. Step
one, first comes women as preachers in Evangelical Christian Churches. Step two, next
comes homosexual preachers and pastors in Evangelical Christian churches.


And remember Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, you helped make that become a reality."


"Not all homosexuals who are members in good standing in Evangelical churches practice
sodomy", smirked the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod.


"That is correct", replied Rev. Deal Infacts, "but the Evangelical LGBTQ Movement within
Evangelical churches has a message for the children in those churches and their message
to the children is that sodomy is normal and good moral behavior for married homosexual
couples in Evangelical churches ~ that sodomy is not wrong. They never condemn sodomy
as a sin."

Continued Rev. Deal Infacts . . .


"In fact that is the message the LGBTQ Movement within Evangelical churches
delivers to everybody ~ to teens, to Fathers, to Mothers, to Families ~ and you Rev.
Henrietta Smartr Thangod, helped along, to some extent, Evangelicalism's LGBTQ
Movement within Evangelical churches to put their pro-sodomy message into the
minds of everybody in those Evangelical churches."


The Rev. Icanplay Thisgamealso had been listening to the ongoing conversation, and
he now spoke:


"The Apostle Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, clearly and boldly said that
women are forbidden to preach or pastor churches." (1 Tim. 2:11-14 and 1 Cor. 14:34-38)


"Harrumph", sneered the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, "Paul is not Jesus, and Jesus
told me to preach."


"No He did not," replied the Rev. Icanplay Thisgamealso, "I talked to Jesus just this morning
and Jesus told me to tell you, that you misunderstood what He told you. Jesus told me to tell
you that He said for you not to preach."


"If the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod can get special revelation from Jesus, so can the Rev.
Icanplay Thisgamealso", observed Rev. Deal Infacts.


At this point the Rev. Deal Infacts said to Rev. Henrietta:


"In your world, according to the way you interpret the Bible, maybe Jesus did not really die
for our sins. The same Bible that says Jesus died for our sins also says that a woman is not
permitted to teach or assume authority over a man (1 Tim. 211-14). You're on dangerous
ground here Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod because the way you interpret the Bible John 3:16
may not actually be true."


"Listen", said the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, "our Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church
is committed to Diversity and Multiculturalism."


"If all cultures", replied Rev. Deal Infacts, "are morally equivalent, as Multiculturalism affirms, then
there is no moral difference in Sodom/Gomorrah and in AnyTown, USA ~ which makes glad that
Old Serpent Egalitarianism. What do you think about that?"


"We", replied the Rev. Henrietta Smartr Thangod, "here at the Rebellious Saints Evangelical
Mega-church, have joined the world of the 21st century. We are not extreamists, sexists, racists,
xenophobes, or homophobes. We are in step with the world and we celebrate Diversity."


Rev. Deal Infacts replied:


"The Sodomites living in the ancient city of Sodom, if they could have known about Liberalism's
celebration of Diversity, would have been tickled pink. The mayor of Sodom would have said,
"America's liberal Rebellious Saints Evangelical Mega-Church wants to celebrate us, oh joy."


"Don't be so harsh with the good people of the ancient city of Sodom", replied the Rev. Henrietta
Smartr Thangod, "they may all have been good Christian people at heart."


[]

Thoughts?
Don't hold back ~ hold forth
Trouble is, this isn't a biblically sanctioned conversation, due to the imperative in Deut 17:7, 1 Cor 5:11-13 to expunge the heretic. There doesn't need to be a debate, and if there is, there is a failure just in it happening.
 

JAG

Active member
Trouble is, this isn't a biblically sanctioned conversation, due to the imperative in Deut 17:7, 1 Cor 5:11-13 to expunge the heretic. There doesn't need to be a debate, and if there is, there is a failure just in it happening.
I am with you 100% in the spirit of what you say. However World Mouth runs 24/7/365 and
will NEVER be shut up. So? So get in the battle and have your say. You gotta say more than
just say, de fscto, don't say anything.

You're saying, de facto, don't say anything. But you can't win word-battles by being quiet.

Best Regards.

JAG


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cjab

Well-known member
I am with you 100% in the spirit of what you say. However World Mouth runs 24/7/365 and
will NEVER be shut up. So? So get in the battle and have your say. You gotta say more than
just say, de fscto, don't say anything.

You're saying, de facto, don't say anything. But you can't win word-battles by being quiet.

Best Regards.

JAG


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I guess it depends on where you are situate in terms of involvement with the hierarchy. If you are a member of the hierarchy of such a church, where such things are happening, you might want to battle it out with arguments, but my experience is that arguments fail with these apostates and heretics. Paul says warn a divisive person twice and then have nothing to do with them. The best that can happen with these mega-churches is that they split in two. So the argument should be to persuade the non-heretics to leave en-masse, or persuade the non-heretics to excomunicate the heretics, if there is sufficient support for it.

Or if you're not too deeply involved in the church, just go some place else.
 

JAG

Active member
I guess it depends on where you are situate in terms of involvement with the hierarchy. If you are a member of the hierarchy of such a church, where such things are happening, you might want to battle it out with arguments, but my experience is that arguments fail with these apostates and heretics. Paul says warn a divisive person twice and then have nothing to do with them. The best that can happen with these mega-churches is that they split in two. So the argument should be to persuade the non-heretics to leave en-masse, or persuade the non-heretics to excomunicate the heretics, if there is sufficient support for it.

Or if you're not too deeply involved in the church, just go some place else.
Agreed.
Arguments almost always fail with apostates and heretics. BUT, the goal is no to win over the
apostates and heretics. The goal is to politically DEFEAT them as in to politically render them
100% impotent with zero power to push forward their apostate heretical political agenda ~ and
in order to get this done we need VOTES and we need . . indeed we MUST have the political
process. You may be thinking what has all this got to do with politics? Answer: Everything has
to do with POLITICS. Politics is just a word that means what we DO. What we Do is our POLICIES.
and our POLICIES are out POLITICS. Its impossible for a Christian to separate what he DOES from
what he BELIEVES. We have to defeat these people politically with VOTES. This is the long term goal
of all that we say and write ~~ otherwise all we are doing is mere talking with no victory goal in
mind. How is my OP political? It appeals to Evangelicals and warns them of the dangers of where
they are heading. Yes there is VOTING within Christian Churches. They VOTE for policies within
the church. I seek to influence their VOTE here. Is it a small effort on my part? Yeah it is. Very small.
But SOMETHING is 1000 X's better than NOTHING, right?

Best Regards.

JAG


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cjab

Well-known member
Agreed.
Arguments almost always fail with apostates and heretics. BUT, the goal is no to win over the
apostates and heretics. The goal is to politically DEFEAT them as in to politically render them
100% impotent with zero power to push forward their apostate heretical political agenda ~ and
in order to get this done we need VOTES and we need . . indeed we MUST have the political
process. You may be thinking what has all this got to do with politics? Answer: Everything has
to do with POLITICS. Politics is just a word that means what we DO. What we Do is our POLICIES.
and our POLICIES are out POLITICS. Its impossible for a Christian to separate what he DOES from
what he BELIEVES. We have to defeat these people politically with VOTES. This is the long term goal
of all that we say and write ~~ otherwise all we are doing is mere talking with no victory goal in
mind. How is my OP political? It appeals to Evangelicals and warns them of the dangers of where
they are heading. Yes there is VOTING within Christian Churches. They VOTE for policies within
the church. I seek to influence their VOTE here. Is it a small effort on my part? Yeah it is. Very small.
But SOMETHING is 1000 X's better than NOTHING, right?

Best Regards.

JAG
Do any of these protestant churches that are being corrupted have the power of excommunication, and if so, why isn't it being used? Why should it depend on votes? Who exactly is in charge of them? It seems to me that one of the fundamental problems with protestant churches is that as long as their leaders come from liberal theological colleges, and that university learning usurps holiness, the churches will become liable to be corrupted by their leaders in these liberal times.

On a separate but related matter, if the power of prophecy is suppressed by the leadership, the truth will not come out. Protestant churches may be victims of their departure from the open style of worship, for the power of prophecy alone, if exercised in the congregation, could help rid their churches of these heretical leaders.
 

JAG

Active member
Do any of these protestant churches that are being corrupted have the power of excommunication, and if so, why isn't it being used? Why should it depend on votes? Who exactly is in charge of them? It seems to me that one of the fundamental problems with protestant churches is that as long as their leaders come from liberal theological colleges, and that university learning usurps holiness, the churches will become liable to be corrupted by their leaders in these liberal times.

On a separate but related matter, if the power of prophecy is suppressed by the leadership, the truth will not come out. Protestant churches may be victims of their departure from the open style of worship, for the power of prophecy alone, if exercised in the congregation, could help rid their churches of these heretical leaders.
I assume you are a Catholic ?
Read this one.
Its about some Catholics who work at Fox News who are cowardly caving in on the social issues.

Best Regards.

JAG

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