Cite your scripture?
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Find me one trinitarian who believes that.
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At vs 14 the Amen is speaking. Show me who calls him Jesus in heaven and not the Amen?
Our Lord's God
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How is your reading comprehension these days?
The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this: 15 ‘I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, “I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. 19 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me. 21 He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. 22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”
johnny guitar
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Jesus calls Himself many things, among them The Amen.
You are charged with a head in the sand posturing,
johnny guitar
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Jesus is speaking in the power of The Holy Spirit.
CrowCross
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OK....and?????
That there is no proof the HS was around before the beginning.
We are not talking about what Jesus calls himself and instead we are talking about those who reside in heaven and to show us where any of those in heaven refer to him as Jesus?
I do not see the name Jesus there anywhere?
Our Lord's God
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His own power wasn't good enough eh? He needed to uses someone else's.
johnny guitar
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Whether they refer to Him as Jesus is irrelevant.
johnny guitar
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He uses BOTH.
johnny guitar
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Anyone can see Jesus speaking there.
WHO ELSE other than Jesus is speaking in Revelation 1-3.
Looks as if your head in the sand response continues.
Yes it is relevant because if he is only referred to by the Amen or the Word by anyone in heaven then there is no Jesus the man in heaven.
The one speaking there would be the one who goes by the title the Amen or the Word in heaven.
johnny guitar
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Luke 24:51; Acts 1:11.
Yep, Jesus the MAN is in heaven, whomever He is referred to.
Endless head in the sand posturing.
johnny guitar
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And that Person is Jesus Christ.
No , no and no. In both of those scriptures he was on earth and then taken up to heaven. The question is now that he is in heaven who in heaven refers to him as Jesus and not when he was on the earth.
Our Lord's God
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John states it was an angel he was speaking with.
Now what? What kind of crazy contraption will you fabricate for us now?
The name Jesus does not appear there.
And like the one said John says it was an angel he was speaking with.