Our Lord's God
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If that fact served him, he would be stomping his feet about it.
If that fact does not serve him, it is irrelevant to him.
It is what hypocrites do.
Find me one trinitarian who believes that.
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If that fact served him, he would be stomping his feet about it.
If that fact does not serve him, it is irrelevant to him.
It is what hypocrites do.
johnny guitar
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IOW Jesus is in heaven NOW, no matter what titles He may hold.
johnny guitar
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NO angel speaking to John in Rev. 1-3.
johnny guitar
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But Jesus appears throughout Rev. 1-3.
Head out of the sand Mr. OLG.
CrowCross
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So, the Holy Spirit who is God didn't exist from eternity past?
Not true! The beginning at John 1:1 is not talking about God's beginning for God had no beginning. Psalm 90:1-2, "Lord, Thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations. vs2, Before the mountains were born, Or Thou didst give birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, Thou art God."
John's beginning deals with things John was here discussing, including the creation of all things by the "Word" who was with God before John's beginning here at John 1:1., John 1:3 confirms this. So, the first two words at Genesis 1:1 starts out, "in beginning" just like at John 1:1 starts out with the same words, "in beginning."
The point of the words at Genesis 1:1, is to show "WHAT HAPPENED "in the beginning. The main thought at of John's beginning is to show 'WHO EXISTED" in the beginning. This means Nathan that at Genesis 1:2 and the Holy Spirit hovering over the waters happened "BEFORE" God created the heavens and the earth. See how easy this is too understand when you know your Bible!
IN GOD THE SON,
james
We know it does not mean it is Gods beginning and like it has been explained many times it is talking about what God did in the beginning.
The HS is not God.
Your wrong again! This is a bad habit with you and it's based on you not knowing the Bible. You just said, "The HS is not God." Ok, then explain Acts 5:3-4 where Peter confronts Ananias and says, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to "LIE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT," and to keep back some of the price of the land?
Vs4, "While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is sit that your have conceived this deed in your heart? YOU HAVE NOT LIED TO MEN, BUT TO GOD." So Nathan, please explain these verses in such a way that they don't mean what they state? Lastly, if the Holy Spirit is not God as you say, who or what is He?
IN GOD THE SON,
james
This has been explained to you all many times and you have to go back to where it says they were filled with the HS. They lied to God through the HS in them.
CrowCross
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In Acts the HS is called God. Sorry. You're wrong.
No the HS is not called God at Acts 5 and I just explained that, that you all start reading from where you want to read and it says above they were filled with the HS. They lied to God through the HS in them and not to the HS who you are claiming is God.
johnny guitar
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Asinine reply. They lied TO The Holy Spirit,
NO ONE lies through The Holy Spirit.
johnny guitar
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Men, through The Holy Spirit do ONLY good.
To say that someone lies through The Holy Spirit is to say The Holy Spirit caused them to lie.
Blasphemous disrespect of The Holy Spirit.
They were for a fact filled with the HS when it says you have not lied to men but to God correct? You think they lied to the HS directly and they did not. Again they lied to God through the HS they were filled with. There is only one HS and when they lied the men were filled with the HS.
Excellent reply to show the trin people the truth.
johnny guitar
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NO filled with The Holy Spirit does evil.
Are you saying they were not filled with the HS when the lie took place?
Our Lord's God
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The beginning of what?
Of what God did in the beginning.