First Lutheran transgender bishop, Megan Rohrer

BJ Bear

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Saved by faith alone thru grace alone, the theme of the reformation!
Are you unwilling or unable to affirm what Scripture actually says in Mark 16:16? Where is your imaginary relative pronoun in search of antecedent that you are trying to use to separate believed from what the Lord has given us to believe in that passage?

The error and heresy is in the meaning of the words you currently use. In light of that it is necessary to point that it is by the true faith rather than the false faith that you assert, and that true faith is in the true Christ rather than the false Christ you assert.
 

BJ Bear

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Those who believe not are damned, not those who did not get water baptized!
According to Mark 16:16 those who didn't believe what are damned?

Here is the passage for your consideration. "The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned." Mark 16:16 -NASB

Since there is no relative pronoun in search of an antecedent after, "The one who has believed," your imaginative opinion of what this passage means is excluded. Since your imaginative opinion is excluded as the right interpretation your conrinued assertion of your imagination regarding this passage, should people believe it, will according to what the passage actually says lead them to condemnation. It will lead them to condemnation because they won't believe what the passage presents them to believe. Repent.
 

YeshuaFan

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Are you unwilling or unable to affirm what Scripture actually says in Mark 16:16? Where is your imaginary relative pronoun in search of antecedent that you are trying to use to separate believed from what the Lord has given us to believe in that passage?

The error and heresy is in the meaning of the words you currently use. In light of that it is necessary to point that it is by the true faith rather than the false faith that you assert, and that true faith is in the true Christ rather than the false Christ you assert.
Are you teaching the heresy of infant baptism regeneration?
 

YeshuaFan

Well-known member
According to Mark 16:16 those who didn't believe what are damned?

Here is the passage for your consideration. "The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned." Mark 16:16 -NASB

Since there is no relative pronoun in search of an antecedent after, "The one who has believed," your imaginative opinion of what this passage means is excluded. Since your imaginative opinion is excluded as the right interpretation your conrinued assertion of your imagination regarding this passage, should people believe it, will according to what the passage actually says lead them to condemnation. It will lead them to condemnation because they won't believe what the passage presents them to believe. Repent.
many have been water baptized and yet still were damned, as had no true and real faith in Lord Jesus to save them from their sins!
 

BJ Bear

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Are you teaching the heresy of infant baptism regeneration?
That is one way to avoid the question regarding Mark 16:16, "According to Mark 16:16 those who didn't believe what are damned?"

The following is being reported as an aid in the event that you are unable to answer the question according to what the passage actually says.

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Here is the passage for your consideration. "The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned." Mark 16:16 -NASB

Since there is no relative pronoun in search of an antecedent after, "The one who has believed," your imaginative opinion of what this passage means is excluded. Since your imaginative opinion is excluded as the right interpretation your conrinued assertion of your imagination regarding this passage, should people believe it, will according to what the passage actually says lead them to condemnation. It will lead them to condemnation because they won't believe what the passage presents them to believe. Repent."

The answer to your question is that it is not a surprise or news that baptismal regeneration is considered a heresy by those who in light of the Scriptural witness hold to a false faith, false Christ, and false baptism.
 

BJ Bear

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many have been water baptized and yet still were damned, as had no true and real faith in Lord Jesus to save them from their sins!
The false faith, Christ, and false baptism that you assert has lead you to try and conclude what is not yours to conclude since you are not the one true God.
 

YeshuaFan

Well-known member
That is one way to avoid the question regarding Mark 16:16, "According to Mark 16:16 those who didn't believe what are damned?"

The following is being reported as an aid in the event that you are unable to answer the question according to what the passage actually says.

"
Here is the passage for your consideration. "The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned." Mark 16:16 -NASB

Since there is no relative pronoun in search of an antecedent after, "The one who has believed," your imaginative opinion of what this passage means is excluded. Since your imaginative opinion is excluded as the right interpretation your conrinued assertion of your imagination regarding this passage, should people believe it, will according to what the passage actually says lead them to condemnation. It will lead them to condemnation because they won't believe what the passage presents them to believe. Repent."

The answer to your question is that it is not a surprise or news that baptismal regeneration is considered a heresy by those who in light of the Scriptural witness hold to a false faith, false Christ, and false baptism.
That doctrine has been held as heresy ever since time of the Apostles!
 

YeshuaFan

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The false faith, Christ, and false baptism that you assert has lead you to try and conclude what is not yours to conclude since you are not the one true God.
We have all been baptized by the same Holy Spirit Christ Jesus and his Body mment we believed in Him, regardless of water baptism!
 

BJ Bear

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That doctrine has been held as heresy ever since time of the Apostles!
That is another way to avoid the question regarding Mark 16:16, "According to Mark 16:16 those who didn't believe what are damned?"

The following is being posted as an aid in the event that you are unable to answer the question according to what the passage actually says.

"The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned." Mark 16:16 -NASB

Since there is no relative pronoun in search of an antecedent after, "The one who has believed," your imaginative opinion of what this passage means is excluded. Since your imaginative opinion is excluded as the right interpretation your conrinued assertion of your imagination regarding this passage, should people believe it, will according to what the passage actually says lead them to condemnation. It will lead them to condemnation because they won't believe what the passage presents them to believe. Repent."

The Apostles warned of the false faiths, false Christs, and false baptisms so it is no surprise that you assert your error is from the time of the Apostles.
 

BJ Bear

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We have all been baptized by the same Holy Spirit Christ Jesus and his Body mment we believed in Him, regardless of water baptism!
If the category you call "we" included the Apostles, disciples, etc., then you wouldn't be denying and despising their witness of Christ and baptism in Scripture, for example, "The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned." Mark 16:16 -NASB
 

YeshuaFan

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If the category you call "we" included the Apostles, disciples, etc., then you wouldn't be denying and despising their witness of Christ and baptism in Scripture, for example, "The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned." Mark 16:16 -NASB
You affirm water baptism saves us, I affirm its the risen Christ!
 

BJ Bear

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You affirm water baptism saves us, I affirm its the risen Christ!
I affirm the Apostolic witness, namely, that the one baptism from God into the true Christ does now save you through the resurrection of the true Christ. You continue to affirm a false faith in a false Christ that will lead to condemnation.
 

YeshuaFan

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I affirm the Apostolic witness, namely, that the one baptism from God into the true Christ does now save you through the resurrection of the true Christ. You continue to affirm a false faith in a false Christ that will lead to condemnation.
One is saved by faith in the risen Christ, regardless if water baptized!
 

BJ Bear

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promise is to all who believe on his name!
The heresy you assert is in the meaning of the words you use, otherwise, you wouldn't be using them to deny the clear word of God in Mark 16. It is apparent that those who use God's word as camouflage to attack and deny His clear word are those with a false faith and false Christ. Repent.
 

BJ Bear

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The debate is clearly not over as many Christians do not view this as a problem.
How do you know? And does the opinion of some people, Christian or otherwise, trump the word of God?
Everyone sins and you do daily and you don't stop. So picking one sin out of many to pick on is simply religious one upmanship.
How do you know that it is only one sin being acknowledged? Or do you think that acknowledgement of one sin necessarily denies other sins?
 
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