Bonnie
Super Member
He did not concede anything, when he wrote "See above. Repent." Perhaps a trip to the optometrist is in order....?
First Lutheran transgender bishop, Megan Rohrer
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Bonnie
Super Member
Not mine!
Bonnie
Super Member
Yes, indeed. I don't know that much about it, but can ask my husband. I imagine it would be up to the Seminary.
Bonnie
Super Member
Where does it actually say "Baptism is ONLY for the saved"? You know, in those words...?
BJ Bear
Well-known member
It is okay. I think a difference will be based upon the individual's experience and education, e,g., a pastor of 20 years in a Lutheran church vs a student at a non-Lutheran seminary.
BJ Bear
Well-known member
Unfortunately, there are some who hav been taught that it is ok to read things into Scripture.
This is a very good start.They/their
First ELCA transgender bishop, Megan Rohrer, hopes to ‘translate good news’ for the curious
[Religion News Service] This isn’t the first time the Rev. Megan Rohrer has been made bishop. Rohrer, who uses the pronouns they/them, was erroneously labewww.episcopalnewsservice.org
She went lesbian first.
If he/she went lesbian first, what did he/she think that entailed? A lesbian by definition is a female who is sexually attracted to a female. Is Megan Rohrer male or female? When it says 'they' how many of them are there?
He or she's testimony is that he/she is going to heaven, so who does he/she say isnt?
“So much of my life is spent talking about people wondering if I’m a sinner,"! I thought we all were. Is he/she saying he/she isnt?
All very confusing
Bonnie
Super Member
I asked my husband. He said the gentleman in question is hoping to go the colloquy route, which would take 1-2 years, depending on what the leadership at the Seminary says, as to how many courses he would need to take, and how many credits he could transfer, and how many years he was a pastor.
Truth7t7
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2 Peter 2:6KJVThey/their
First ELCA transgender bishop, Megan Rohrer, hopes to ‘translate good news’ for the curious
[Religion News Service] This isn’t the first time the Rev. Megan Rohrer has been made bishop. Rohrer, who uses the pronouns they/them, was erroneously labe
She went lesbian first.
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
BJ Bear
Well-known member
Thank you!
Under the New Covenant, water baptism reserved for those now saved in Christ!
Correct, but they share the Catholics' belief that water baptism is how people become saved in Christ.
Bonnie
Super Member
It isn't just "water" baptism, but water WITH the word of God. And that is ONE way to become saved in Christ Jesus. Jesus comes to us by word and Sacrament--Baptism and the Lord's Supper.
is there effectual saving grace in the elements then?
BJ Bear
Well-known member
It is apparent that your categories are not the categories of Scripture.
Bonnie
Super Member
No. Didn't I say that on here earlier? Water by itself has no salvific properties. But for whatever reason, Jesus has granted the forgiveness of sins through water WITH THE WORD (Eph. 5). Just pouring water on us or being dunked in water won't cleanse us of our sins, any more than a Hindu bathing in the Ganges river can receive spiritual cleansing that way. It is the word of God working THROUGH the water in Holy Baptism that grants forgiveness of sins to the recipient.
A sinner receives the Holy Spirit when he trusts in and receives Jesus as lord thru faith. correct?
Are we not saved by Grace alone thru faith alone?
Bonnie
Super Member
Sure we are. And Baptism is pure grace.
Bonnie
Super Member
Certainly. But he can receive the HS through holy Baptism, too.